lc500 drives and feels amazing but so does the gsf. I drove them back. Lc500 is much nicer inside and looks like nothing on road. I would say the gsf to me drives brakes and handles better. Couple of friends I know went for gsf over lc500. The gsf is a rarer car too.
but to op question lc500 probably good as a second car not just your 1 dd meanwhile the is500 makes more sense

 

GSF is also a great car, almost bought one in 2020 from a Texas Toyota dealership. It got sold really quickly while I was debating buying it

 

If you saw the post that was originally quoting me, I literally called it a grand tourer.

Saying what the car is and isn't is not "ragging" on it. Do you think people rag on an ES when they say that it's not a sports car? Obviously the LC is more than an ES will ever be, but it's a big soft luxury coupe and I don't see any need to pretend that it's better at the bends or track than a GS-F.

 

The draw of the LC to me is all about beauty. It’s just one of the most beautiful cars made, and the GS-F is…not lol

 

If you think the LC is a “big soft luxury coupe” you have never driven one. It’s actually quite firm and dynamic, it’s nothing like say an LS. Comparing it to an ES is just hilarious.

The LC is way more similar to drive to a GS-F than it is different.

 

No it's not lol. It's a big soft car with some level of handling competency but nowhere near an F car. Suspension, cooling, etc. are nothing like the GS-F. You don't have to take my words, listen to someone who owns it and regularly tracks it.

 

People don't push cars to limit of grip, they push till it's "feels" like it's at a "limit" so the LC likely feels great to most. It does have a killer chassis but it really needs more cooling and an active diff to have more control at and past the grip limit

 

Have you driven both cars? I have. “Big soft car”
is not the way you would describe the LC if you had driven one. My S560 is a “big soft car”. The LC is much firmer and tauter than something like an S Class or an LS. It’s not a track machine, it’s a grand tourer, taking one to the track is just silly, but the way you describe the car is not accurate at all, and it is way more similar to a GS-F in drive than it is an LS.

Like bit said, I’m not sure why you have such a chip on your shoulder about the LC…

 

And? "Big soft car" is literally how Savagegeese describes it. Take it to him and tell him he doesn't know how the car he's owned for over a year now and driven harder than you ever will that he has no idea how his car rides and handles.

The original question was a comparison between an LC500 and GS-F with some asserting that the LC500 drives as well as a GS-F. It doesn't, according to anyone who has tracked both like Goose or Engineering Explained. Insisting that it does is completely disingenuous and a poor representation of the car. Appreciate it for what it is, a plush GT car like a Bentley Continental.

 

That's basically what Savagegeese said, along with a need for a more taut suspension. I respect that the LC is totally aware of what it is and has no pretensions of being a sporty machine, at a time when F-Sport labels are slapped on mostly meaningless appearance packages.

 

This. ^^^

I tend to prefer a smaller car. The problem is that, even if you get one fully-loaded, many of the higher-end features are not even offered in the smaller model. An IS just doesn't offer as much as an LC is going to offer, as far as features, options, and luxury experience.

If that's important to OP.

 

Drive it yourself. Savagegeese's characterization is focused on vehicles used for the track. It may be a "big soft car" on the track, but as a street car that is a poor characterization. It drives nothing like a Bentley Continental, which has an air suspension, Continental is much softer, I've not driven one but have ridden in them.

"Drives as well" is relative. I think the LC drives way better than the GS-F having driven both, but I'm not looking for track performance. What I said was it drives more like a GS-F than it does an LS, which is absolutely accurate. If anything, I would prefer the LC actually be softer...

 

It's not in the context of a track. Savagegeese (both Jack and Mark) have been consistent in characterizing the LC since its refresh as being a soft, almost floaty car. Mark literally calls it "one of the softest modern cars you're going to get into aside from an S-Class." Jack says it's one step away from a Lincoln Town Car. No 10 minute drive can compare to these guys who have literally examined every technical detail of this car, owned it for over a year, and tracked it.

 

He is just completely wrong (which wouldn't be the first time), unless the convertible is entirely different than the coupe. Go drive one yourself. Having an LS and an S Class you dont think i would notice if the car was remotely as soft as what I drive every day?

 

I don't know, the 2018 LS is fairly hard edged as well. Both are soft at the limits vs a GSF that remains predictable and with a very easy to handle leash at and past the limit.

I've not driven a 2020+ LS or LC though so I'm speaking from the earlier/harder suspension setups on both cars. I know they softened them past the ones I drove so the gap is likely wider