Oh man the side by side add would be hilarious! I didn't even think that aggressively lol!

I would never drive any of my cars there, I wouldn't even want to take a rental. Not much worth visiting in the first place but if I did go again I would just Uber in like last time.

 

you talking about france? paris?? i'm not a city guy but that's my favorite city on earth, and i love to walk around it.

 

Oh man, Paris is gorgeous. The history of that city. If it weren't filled with French people, I would consider living there

 

NYC, Europe was quite nice but very odd in a way to me with not much access to stuff and I couldn't see myself living there for that reason. Extremely pleasant in the smaller towns but the larger cites had some grey areas along side the excellent parts. I liked the trip a lot.

NYC just failed to impress me, I had a private box for a broadway play, had lunch atop the NWTS, and did a bunch of other highlight type stuff and after spending thousands it really didn't do it for me unfortunately. I would have much rather spent what I did going on a helo hog hunt or something. Or renting a supercar for a few days etc....

I have felt most at peace/ease and happy with being in a place at Eureka Springs AK, it's my favorite place and me and my wife go every year.

It's not fancy or high end but for whatever reason it's just fantastic, we know a lot of the locals now since I'm the only mixed race guy they really ever see lol! The main event we go to is a week long shoot hosted by Wilson combat and we also visit with NHC and some other companies. The evenings have so many options for food we are only though about half of them and again, not the highest end but it just tastes great for some reason.

 

I remember there was a huge outcry amongst hipster freaks on soyboy bicycling websites when Mercedes aired these ads, lol.

 

See? Now that's an add, run it in places it would appeal to the expected viewers.

Now all Lexus needs is a car that can actually hit a 3.3 or less that isn't the LFA

 

Disagree. Freak-speed is not necessarily what makes a good vehicle. Lexus did not get to be the success it became by building rocket-sleds.

 

You can have both. AMG, M, and S/RS all do, if the LS460 in 2013 didn't stay at 385hp and instead used a TTV8 like the others it would have done so much better. Just imagine the Fsport line all having 100 more hp just how much that would draw people in!

Lexus has super high quality and comfort, but that isn't understood until you sit in and drive one. Hard to get people in the door when the competitions mid tier cars are murdering your flagships 0-60

Lots of power and speed make up for a huge amount, the ability to have command of the road via enough power to always be where to want to be is a luxury aspect from the experiential standpoint.

You go on any roads in a 3.5 second or really under 4 sec 0-60 car and you are basically god of the road. Someone going too slow on a backroad? Three of them? Pass them all instantly. Someone tailgating you on the interstate? Jump up to 140. It's a grand feeling.

Put another way let me ask you this, would you enjoy your car if it only had half the power it does? Would someone who drives an S-class V8 still like it as much if it had 1/3 the power?

 

Never been to Paris, its on my list...

 

Paris is awesome, just don't try to go through immigration during their lunch break. They will literally all sit down and have their lunch, even if the line is a mile long. It will be as if there is no line...

 

I mean, I've been to France at Epcot and Paris in Vegas LOL

 

Depends on the model involve. To this day, I still think the superb 4Gen ES300/300 was the best, most refined, and well-done ES in history....much better than the current ones.....which, I'll admit, may be a little faster from 0-60. And most Lexus buyers (although some here on CL may be exceptions) don't care about 0-60 times.

A definite yes. Even though my car has only three cylinders and a turbo, it still puts out more torque than I use (or need) most of the time. I would not enjoy it, though, if the engine had only half of the refinement it has now.....even with the noted and effective Buick Quiet Tuning, having only three cylinders cuts noticeably into the refinement level while under acceleration. That's one thing, of course, that an electric version would eliminate.

IMO probably not, but let Steve answer that one.......he owns one. S-class sedans are also designed for the German Autobahn, with unlimited top-speeds. Driving conditions here in the U.S. are often quite different.

 

I'm not necessarily defending laziness or laxness on the job, but can you blame them? Like Italian cuisine, French food didn't get the worldwide reputation it has for nothing, especially when one is hungry after a long morning's work.

 

*slow clap* Good one!

I've actually never been to Vegas, any good? Would it be worth it going to a hotel for the experience? I have plenty of family there so if not it's no big deal....

 

Ah ah but you see you wouldn't like it with half the power, you would need to get the engine into the harsh ranges FAR more often if you have a weaker engine. In my V8s anything over 2k rpm is optional so it automatically smooths out and refines the experience through more power early on. The other plus to a high power engine is they don't seem or sound stressed up top, the sound of a 4k+ RPM V8 is pleasant....a 4k+ V6 not so much unless it's a high performance version and that goes against luxury in some ways.

I agree that gen ES is great, all the ES gens gen after that are very close power/performance wise.....also a bit of an issue in and of itself since that's 15 years of same old same old.