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01-04-22, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Striker223

Ah ah but you see you wouldn't like it with half the power, you would need to get the engine into the harsh ranges FAR more often if you have a weaker engine.

Ordinarily that would be the case, but you asked about MY engine. It reaches max torque (and max unrefinement) around 2000 RPM.

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I agree that gen ES is great, all the ES gens gen after that are very close power/performance wise.....also a bit of an issue in and of itself since that's 15 years of same old same old.

Power-wise, the later ES models have more spunk under the hood, but IMO are not as well built, plush inside or refined.

01-04-22, 04:18 PM

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I've been to Paris in 2010, word is since then it got a lot worse. I enjoyed my stay, and I did notice the air quality was substantially worse than here in the US - back then a lot of European cars were traditional diesel, and you could smell it in the air.

01-04-22, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mmarshall

Ordinarily that would be the case, but you asked about MY engine. It reaches max torque (and max unrefinement) around 2000 RPM.

Power-wise, the later ES models have more spunk under the hood, but IMO are not as well built, plush inside or refined.

Yes, your engine with half the power. It would need to rev more to get you moving the same as the current normal you now use.

You can likely accelerate the same as my "normal" in my 460 but you will be maxing out the engine to do so while I'm only at 3700. That induces more NHV and nosier operation and less luxury.

Power makes a huge difference