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Old 01-04-22 | 09:16 AM
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Default France requires car ads to promote walking, biking, riding a bus

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France's government has decided to require that automakers promote walking, biking, or taking the bus in their ads. Starting on March 1, 2022, ads for new cars will have to display one of several green slogans regardless of whether they're in print, on a screen, or on the radio.

Ad agencies will have three messages to choose from: "pour les trajets courts, privilégiez la marche ou le vélo" ("walk or bike if you're taking a short trip"), "pensez à covoiturer" ("remember to use car-sharing services"), and "au quotidien, prenez les transports en commun" (use public transportation for everyday trips"). Print, online, and television ads will also need to display the hashtag #SeDéplacerMoinsPolluer (#MovingPollutingLess). Companies that don't comply with the new regulations will be fined up to 50,000 euros (about $56,500) per day.

The law adds that the message needs to appear horizontally and in a space that takes up at least 7% of the ad, so companies won't be able to get away with hiding it in a tire or somewhere off in the distance. On the radio, the message has to be legibly spoken at the end of the ad.

Response to the rule has been mixed. Volkswagen told French newspaper Le Monde that it plans to comply with the regulations. Hyundai's French division will comply as well, but its CEO raised a few issues with the government-mandated messages.

"There's a paradox: the law doesn't differentiate between the different powertrain types. That's a bit counter-productive if we consider that the government wants to increase EV sales. I think it also takes away personal responsibility, and it stigmatizes the car. It means that, broadly speaking, we need to find alternatives to driving. It's the first time that the government sends such a direct message. If I'm going on a short trip that requires taking a busy road, I'm not going to walk or take my bike," said Hyundai France CEO Lionel French Keogh.

Similar messages already appear on some food products. Mars needs to tell French consumers to eat five portions of fruits and vegetables daily when it promotes its Snickers bar. Meanwhile, tobacco manufacturers have been banned from using any form of branding since 2016.
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Old 01-04-22 | 09:28 AM
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France requires car ads to promote walking, biking, riding a bus
At one time, in France, those ads might have actually meant something LOL.



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Hopefully the french government is paying for part of those ads...
Old 01-04-22 | 10:48 AM
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Hopefully the french government is paying for part of those ads...
no chance.

also, this quote from hyundai ceo made me laugh...

"There's a paradox: the law doesn't differentiate between the different powertrain types. That's a bit counter-productive if we consider that the government wants to increase EV sales. I think it also takes away personal responsibility, and it stigmatizes the car. ..."
it's not about powertrain type, govts clearly want less cars of any kind on roads. they consider them a headache and earnest 'urban planners' love the idea of no cars, people walking, biking, and pub tran everywhere.

i can sympathize with their view in dense cities, but not outside them.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
no chance.
Totally agree lol
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I've got some sympathy with the intent here too. People do tend to take a car when there are other means to safely get there that might actually be good for them. The French don't quite have the problem with obesity we do, but more people doing at least something active is never a bad thing - whether in France, here or anywhere. Lots of journeys we take by car are safely walkable, ridable or could be taken by other means. If they are not, by all means take the car.

Now, these requirements for ads aren't going to change much, no one is going to have a health and wellness epiphany just because they saw a tagline on a car ad, but when they hear it often enough across different media it does start to make a difference. And obesity, in large part due as much to sedentary behavior as much as other obvious causes, is a big problem.

Walk, hike, bike and losing a few pounds is something to be encouraged.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Hopefully the french government is paying for part of those ads...
If they aren't I would go so far as to include the required items in a lead section of the add showing people having a horrible time walking in the rain and being packed into a bus/train and generally having a bad time.

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Originally Posted by swajames
I've got some sympathy with the intent here too. People do tend to take a car when there are other means to safely get there that might actually be good for them. The French don't quite have the problem with obesity we do, but more people doing at least something active is never a bad thing - whether in France, here or anywhere. Lots of journeys we take by car are safely walkable, ridable or could be taken by other means. If they are not, by all means take the car.

Now, these requirements for ads aren't going to change much, no one is going to have a health and wellness epiphany just because they saw a tagline on a car ad, but when they hear it often enough across different media it does start to make a difference. And obesity, in large part due as much to sedentary behavior as much as other obvious causes, is a big problem.

Walk, hike, bike and losing a few pounds is something to be encouraged.
People would much sooner get some sort of powered scooter thing than start walking or biking. E-bikes come to mind, all powered no one pedals
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I like the message, but don't really like how its being mandated.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
no chance.
it's not about powertrain type, govts clearly want less cars of any kind on roads. they consider them a headache and earnest 'urban planners' love the idea of no cars, people walking, biking, and pub tran everywhere.

i can sympathize with their view in dense cities, but not outside them.
As if car ads ever had anything to do with reality, lol.

As far as banning cars in dense cities, even Julius Caesar used to ban personal horse carts from Rome to avoid gridlock. Thing is, cities don't really have much traffic, most of its is created by oblivious suburbanites driving in and creating traffic. If not an outright ban, there should be a very high toll for personal cars to enter cities during peak hours.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Hopefully the french government is paying for part of those ads...
Originally Posted by bitkahuna​
not a chance
Steve's got a point. The way governments in Western Europe tax their citizens, they can ante up some of the costs.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
If they aren't I would go so far as to include the required items in a lead section of the add showing people having a horrible time walking in the rain and being packed into a bus/train and generally having a bad time.
Haha, yes!
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Originally Posted by Och
even Julius Caesar used to ban personal horse carts from Rome to avoid gridlock.
...and look where it got him.

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Originally Posted by Striker223
If they aren't I would go so far as to include the required items in a lead section of the add showing people having a horrible time walking in the rain and being packed into a bus/train and generally having a bad time.
good idea, or how about 2 pictures side by side of with diagonal split... one of a person driving, smile on face, in a serene cozy car, and the other of people either at a bus stop or walking in hammering rain looking very grumpy.

Originally Posted by Och
Thing is, cities don't really have much traffic, most of its is created by oblivious suburbanites driving in and creating traffic. If not an outright ban, there should be a very high toll for personal cars to enter cities during peak hours.
agree completely, except for workers commuting in, who should still pay something but maybe be able to get an annual pass of something. but for tourists, they should pay a bundle driving into manhattan.

Originally Posted by mmarshall
Steve's got a point. The way governments in Western Europe tax their citizens, they can ante up some of the costs.
it varies but in some places is not as high as you might imagine especially compared to heavily taxed areas of the u.s. they do tax consumption higher though (non-essentials, energy, etc).

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I dunno man, when I was in France they seem way healthier and happier than Americans. Except when they have to work more than 10 hours a week. Then all hell breaks loose...



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