funny comment there on the other battery tech being discussed:



so question, sports fans... how would this startup make their battery work with a tesla s which has tons of software built around tesla's batteries including cooling, charging, management, etc.?

 

we've had a thousand posts on this and how great it will be (mostly from you ) and zero evidence it's anywhere near coming to market.

 

This is what the President of the most profitable auto maker said. Keep in mind, Toyota also has the most battery patents.

With range and affordability in mind, Toyoda said, “The more batteries you add to extend cruising range, the bigger, heavier, and more expensive a vehicle becomes."


Are you suggesting he is incorrect?

 

This statement doesn't make any sense lol. If something "wont work" then it isn't possible...

I'm saying he had an agenda when he said that, Toyota's heavy investment in hydrogen fuel cell cars, which they have now abandoned

 

He said on the day he released the images of 15 EVS on battery electric day in Dec.

. Is he correct or incorrect?

 

Yes. He is incorrect. You do not need to add mass to add range. That’s not a hard concept to grasp, and I gave you three examples of how range can be increased without adding mass.

 

Ok thanks. I guess the president of Toyota is incorrect.

 

Just because he's the president of Toyota doesn't make him God. Or honest and trustworthy. He's a businessman that worships wealth

 

He's not incorrect at all. He is saying if the way you add range is by adding batteries, the car will get heavier and more expensive. That's correct. He does not state that adding batteries is the ONLY way to add range.

It would be a different situation if he had said this: The only way to add range is to add batteries, and as you add batteries, the car will get heavier and more expensive.

 

So bringing it back to the StartUp One prototype battery…does mass of this start up battery increase?

 

The Tesla team discusses it on their earnings call and those have way more scrutiny as its informing investors of progress on their roadmap. In their last call, they said they are done with the verification process on the battery and are now ironing out the kinks in their manufacturing process. Go read their earnings transcripts...its all there.

 

Shady as hell too. His recent lobbying against BEV behind closed doors and then a public turnaround on BEV when he realized that his hybrid/hydrogen strategy is a fail makes him look like a fool. He has an agenda against BEV and completely untrustworthy when he says something about it.

 

You think everything Tesla is coming out with will never happen until it does. Then to the next.....lol I give you points for consistency.
Akio recently said battery electric vehicles pollute worse than gas powered. Nothing he says can be taken at face value honestly.
Tesla buys battery cells from various suppliers and puts them in their battery packs this startup could make them in whatever form factor Tesla or other auto makers want.

 

Many of us on the ISF forum run LifePO4 batteries. They have thoroughly impressed me.

 

Of course nobody would actually do that. You don’t send your prototypes and products to your competitors for studying. That’s just downright silly.