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Old 01-20-22, 12:08 AM
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Might be the first time I've seen matte wood in a Bentley.


I'm sure everyone will have their opinions about the powertrain. And apparently it will be more expensive than the V8.

Car and Driver's review also mentions this interesting snippet:
In a recent survey of its customers, Bentley discovered that roughly half of them expressed interest in either purchasing a PHEV or EV vehicle.
The W12 probably won't be around much longer.

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Got it, so when you go to actually drive it like a Bentley it sounds horrible and has disjointed power delivery. Plus it's heavier, slower, and can't be tuned for an extra 200hp like the V8 or 12 versions.

Sounds like they are trying hard to ruin the car to me. I doubt anyone who can buy one of these new cars about mpg.
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A 1:17 the young millennial gets it all wrong.

It is heavier. LOL. And need to charge.

Impressive interior.

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\ I doubt anyone who can buy one of these new cars about mpg.
Yeah, doubt anyone cares.

. And apparently it will be more expensive than the V8.
When all said and done. Going green will end up costing more for everyone in every imaginal way.

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finally watched it. it's called a hybrid but didn't realize it's a plug-in hybrid (PHEV).

seems like bentley did an excellent job, and customers can now present their 'green cred' card as they waft to the country club or a night out at the opera.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Sounds like they are trying hard to ruin the car to me.
sounds like you're not the target customer.

and i expect almost NO bentley customers are 'tuning' them for an extra 200hp.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
sounds like you're not the target customer.

and i expect almost NO bentley customers are 'tuning' them for an extra 200hp.
Almost all of the secondary market buyers are, my replacement for my 460 is going to be a flying spur so in some capacity I am the target. A tune is the first thing I will be doing after repairs
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Got it, so when you go to actually drive it like a Bentley it sounds horrible and has disjointed power delivery. Plus it's heavier, slower, and can't be tuned for an extra 200hp like the V8 or 12 versions.

Sounds like they are trying hard to ruin the car to me. I doubt anyone who can buy one of these new cars about mpg.
The problem is that the car doesn't have the active anti-rollbars or rear wheel steering which are essential but not available on the hybrid. It comes across as being a compliance vehicle rather than a true engineering effort like the Panamera hybrid it's based on.
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This was a weak effort by Bentley for sure.

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Almost all of the secondary market buyers are, my replacement for my 460 is going to be a flying spur so in some capacity I am the target. A tune is the first thing I will be doing after repairs
Lol you are not the target buyer in any capacity as a secondary market prospective buyer. And I think that is a very strong statement to say that almost all secondary market buyers are tuning these- A notable amount perhaps, but I’d need to see proof that’s any more than a quarter of secondhand owners.
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NA W12 atkinson motor with a hybrid package? It's a VAG, so I kind-of doubt it, but who knows.

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The problem is that the car doesn't have the active anti-rollbars or rear wheel steering which are essential but not available on the hybrid. It comes across as being a compliance vehicle rather than a true engineering effort like the Panamera hybrid it's based on.
They could go the extra mile and do a hydropneumatic setup of sorts that completely goes away with the "take away spring force from the inner wheel" compromise that is the roll bar, active or not.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
Car and Driver's review also mentions this interesting snippet:

The W12 probably won't be around much longer.
I'm not surprised in the slightest by this. I have no problem placing a bet that the W12 will be completely phased out of some markets before the end of the decade.
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
I'm not surprised in the slightest by this. I have no problem placing a bet that the W12 will be completely phased out of some markets before the end of the decade.
It'll be sooner than that. And it'll be for all markets.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...-ev-plan-2020/
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Originally Posted by Motorola
The problem is that the car doesn't have the active anti-rollbars or rear wheel steering which are essential but not available on the hybrid. It comes across as being a compliance vehicle rather than a true engineering effort like the Panamera hybrid it's based on.
Why would they waste equipping a car with those systems when they know the buyer clearly doesn't care about performance?

That's how I see it
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Originally Posted by Motorola
It'll be sooner than that. And it'll be for all markets.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...-ev-plan-2020/
That's admittedly more aggressive than I imagined. Oh well, another 12 cylinder powerplant I won't miss. The W12 never sounded that good to me, which is a shame considering that's half the reason I'd want a 12 cylinder car in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Lwerewolf
NA W12 atkinson motor with a hybrid package? It's a VAG, so I kind-of doubt it, but who knows.



They could go the extra mile and do a hydropneumatic setup of sorts that completely goes away with the "take away spring force from the inner wheel" compromise that is the roll bar, active or not.
That's what the Porsche system does.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Why would they waste equipping a car with those systems when they know the buyer clearly doesn't care about performance?

That's how I see it
It's not about performance, it's about stability and ride refinement, which is what C&D knocked this car for. Other flagship sedans like the S-Class have their own versions of these features like the E-Active Body Control.
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