SW17LS

Dude, relax. I'm obviously not laughing at the injury, I'm laughing at the question about where the injury came from when her car had a big SUV on its roof.

Sheesh with the drama

SW17LS

It depends on your perspective. if Arnold hadn't been in a big SUV likely nobody would have been injured here. So, if you're driving the big SUV sure that mass and safety of that is to your benefit. If you're driving a the Prius, then no its the opposite. That mass of the other person's vehicle is dangerous to you. For society, they are overkill and too much.

AJT123

You don't get to decide that. I could say an S-Class is overkill and too much, easily. E350 is perfectly luxurious enough luxury car.

I don't want to tow my boat with a crossover, neither do millions of other Americans. As just one example.

mmarshall

I already pointed that out to Jill, tex. She understood it does not apply to the accident.

mmarshall

One cannot really make that statement because it is hypothetical and guess-work, but I agree that a smaller, lighter SUV would have probably decreased the chances of the Prius driver being hurt....or the severity of the injury. It is true that small vehicles have much better accident-safety today than the once did (just think of the old air-cooled VWs, for instance). But, no matter how much safety-gear or advanced a design you have, when a dinosaur collides with a mouse, it's hard to discount the laws of physics.

SW17LS

First off, remember YOU brought the discussion here.

I'm not saying these vehicles should be banned, but I absolutely do get to have an opinion about what is too much, and huge vehicles like this driven around by one person when that vehicle is not necessary for the driver's needs make the roads less safe for other drivers...like this woman in the Prius. You have a right to buy a Suburban for your kid, you have a right to buy one for yourself to drive around in alone all the time, but I think those choices are irresponsible. Because people are out driving these huge vehicles when they don't need them others feel they have to buy huge vehicles to protect themselves and it becomes a vicious cycle.

An S Class is a heavy vehicle, but the damage that can be done to others with an S Class is way less than what can be done to others with a Suburban. I think consumers should have a little more concern about others than they do...I think thats true in many areas of American life.

There is no reason why one person needs to drive around in a 7,000 lb suburban that ramps up on top of smaller cars in an accident. They CAN do that, but that doesn't mean they should. You don't want to tow your boat with a crossover, but you have multiple cars. You don't have to drive your boat towing car when you aren't towing a boat. Arnold has multiple cars, he doesn't have to drive his Yukon XL when he's driving around alone.

SW17LS

Its physics Mike. If he were in a car, his car wouldn't have ramped up on top of her car like his Yukon XL did. Less crash forces, an impact the way cars were designed to absorb impacts means a lower likelihood of injury.

RNM GS3

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You do realize the #1 selling vehicle in US for decades is F150 truck. Most on top 10 list are all huge pickup trucks. I think if anything most ppl drive huge Trucks/Suvs especially in fly over country where you hardly see a Prius, Lexus and for sure an Sclass!

I was down South this past summer in Jeep country and My BMW was a unicorn. It took 2-3 days before i saw another BMW or any German car. In NY, they are a dime a dozen lol. Its just so different in other places.

mmarshall

Partly physics, but partly also a mismatch in vehicle-heights. That's one reason why, years ago, the big semi tractor-trailer trucks all got those low-hanging steel bars on the back of the trailers.....to keep small cars from sliding underneath and getting their roofs (and sometimes occupant's heads) from being taken off.

tex2670

I thought that was exactly the physics part?

AJT123

Meaning what exactly? Isn't this a discussion board?

Again, you don't get to say what people "need" or not. Do you not understand that? Calling people irresponsible, etc. for driving trucks is rude and presumptuous. My loved ones are more important to me than the stranger on the interstate, anyone who says otherwise is lying. There's one of a thousand reasons I choose to drive a 6200lb vehicle.

Missed my point. I'm saying by your logic, you don't need a S-Class....what's the point? It is way overkill and too much, luxury wise. You don't need that. Even a C-class is plenty luxurious, and the back seat is pretty spacious so you can still chauffeur clients around. You don't really like me telling you how to live your life, do you? Because I have no right... IDC what you lease, your business your life. I have had to say "I'll do me, you do you" to you far too many times.

The mom with 5 kids and husband who loves boats and camping might disagree with you. There's one of a million examples.

What? Are you telling others and me what to do again? You don't have the right to do that. So I can't or shouldn't drive my LX unless I'm towing something, is that what you're saying?

So now you're telling Arnold Schwarzenegger how to live his life?

You are entitled to your opinion but to paint such broad generalizations that anyone who drives a heavy SUV is irresponsible is rather rude. And you have no business trying to tell adult Americans what to do.

DaveGS4

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Sw, ajt take it to pm

SW17LS

No argument between us here, I 100% agree that everybody has the right to drive whatever they want to drive. There's a difference though between what someone can do and what someone should do, but thats a decision everybody has to make for themselves.

mmarshall

Perhaps (?)

I'm not a math-expert or a physicist, but, as I understood physics in an automotive sense, it is concerned more with impact-force and kinetic-energy than with uneven points-of-impact, which would probably have more to so with the effects of leverage then kinetic energy.


Might be an interesting question for someone in the thread with an advanced math or physics degree to address. I know JDR76, for instance, is an engineer.

bitkahuna

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ok folks, let's perhaps wait until we have more info on what actually happened.