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Old 02-16-22, 10:33 AM
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I would LOVE to see the stats on the types of loans people are choosing to get these cars. With these numbers, is it safe to assume most people are financing with 6-8 year car loans? maybe 10 year? Most families don't have $1k in the bank for an emergency - i can't imagine what they need to do to buy a $50k automobile.

Up till now, I've never heard of a 10-year-car-loan...the longest I've seen is around 7 years or so (maybe 8). But some research shows that a few banks are now indeed offering loans that long. I suspect these will be popular with some Senior Citizens, simply because they know that they might pass away before it is paid off, and they won't have to worry about it. And, of course, not everyone keeps a vehicle 10 years to start with.
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I would LOVE to see the stats on the types of loans people are choosing to get these cars. With these numbers, is it safe to assume most people are financing with 6-8 year car loans? maybe 10 year? Most families don't have $1k in the bank for an emergency - i can't imagine what they need to do to buy a $50k automobile.
Most car loans are 60 or 72 months. Anything longer than that is unusual.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Most car loans are 60 or 72 months. Anything longer than that is unusual.
I have seen RAM offering 96 month financing in the paper.
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I have seen RAM offering 96 month financing in the paper.
But those are very unusual loans. The default is 60 months
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Most car loans are 60 or 72 months. Anything longer than that is unusual.
Unfortunately, it seems to be becoming more the norm as of late.

According to the Experian credit bureau, the average new car loan currently lasts about 69 months, while the average used car loan spans about 65 months. About a third of new car loans and around 19% of used car loans are longer than six years.
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Unfortunately, it seems to be becoming more the norm as of late.


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Its 1/3rd, or 33%. So I wouldn't call that the norm. The fact is 66% of car loans are 72 months or shorter...but yeah terms are getting longer. I remember when it was 36 months...then 48 months...
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One must also consider, in the length of the loan, what the effect of the interest rate will be (if not the 0% that some manufacturers are giving). So many people are allured by the prospect of a low monthly payment that they don't consider what it will actually be costing them in the long run. You could have a lower monthly payment on a long term loan, but end up with a lot MORE of those same monthly payments, paying a lot more in the long run until the vehicle is paid off. Like I said, much of it depends on the interest rate and/or how the interest is compounded.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Its 1/3rd, or 33%. So I wouldn't call that the norm. The fact is 66% of car loans are 72 months or shorter...but yeah terms are getting longer. I remember when it was 36 months...then 48 months...
that's crazy... back in the days when i financed my cars indeed 48 months were already "long". i remember when i saw a ferrari dealership offered 72/84 months loaned i said wow so that how's they get you into a ferrari? now 72 months loan is a "norm" for regular cars? my goodness, people are crazy doing 6 year loans on depreciating assets.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
dang if i could sell my LC500 for more than i paid for it, i probably would.
like i said, go price it out. depending on how much discount you got, it's very possible you are not losing any money selling it now
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Originally Posted by rominl
that's crazy... back in the days when i financed my cars indeed 48 months were already "long". i remember when i saw a ferrari dealership offered 72/84 months loaned i said wow so that how's they get you into a ferrari? now 72 months loan is a "norm" for regular cars? my goodness, people are crazy doing 6 year loans on depreciating assets.
I wouldn't say its the norm, the default is 60 months but you see more and more 72 month financing.

But yeah, I remember when 36 was the norm and 48 was the long option.

But, you still typically are in positive equity even with a 72 month loan.
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Originally Posted by rominl
that's crazy... back in the days when i financed my cars indeed 48 months were already "long". i remember when i saw a ferrari dealership offered 72/84 months loaned i said wow so that how's they get you into a ferrari? now 72 months loan is a "norm" for regular cars? my goodness, people are crazy doing 6 year loans on depreciating assets.
If it's a 0 percent loan, I'll take the longest term available
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My GS is at 60 months because they had the 0% financing on that term. It's a fantastic feeling to have every penny of my payment go towards the principle.

When I bought the Tundra, they offered me 84 months, which I just couldn't sign up for, though surprisingly the rate wasn't bad (I can't remember what it was). When I first started seeing 72 and 84 month loans, the rates were always pretty high, but it seems like they aren't too bad lately, but it's just a longer term than I would want.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I wouldn't say its the norm, the default is 60 months but you see more and more 72 month financing.

But yeah, I remember when 36 was the norm and 48 was the long option.

But, you still typically are in positive equity even with a 72 month loan.
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If it's a 0 percent loan, I'll take the longest term available
true, if it's 0% then it's really no brainer. i have never looked into auto loan for a long time so i don't know if there was a lot of 0% in recent years. my guess is 0% is a thing in the past now.

if any interest rate is involved, then personally i don't see how 72 month loan is a good idea.
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Originally Posted by rominl
like i said, go price it out. depending on how much discount you got, it's very possible you are not losing any money selling it now
where would i 'price it out'? i just went to carvana and after entering info it said "we're stumped"

i don't imagine any dealer giving a 'great deal'.
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Originally Posted by rominl
true, if it's 0% then it's really no brainer. i have never looked into auto loan for a long time so i don't know if there was a lot of 0% in recent years. my guess is 0% is a thing in the past now.
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