EV batteries should last for about 15 Years
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mileage, well cared for 10-12 year old Lexus vehicles and still drive them another 15 years.
A 10-12 year old EV or hybrid isn’t a good deal even with low mileage. It’ll need a battery soon.
Replacing something for a couple grand, I won’t be super mad… but we’re talking about a 10-25k replacement cost here.
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I had the same concern, but it turns out this isn't as big a problem as you'd think. Peak summer power usage happens during the daytime heat, and most charging is overnight, so the additional charging capacity needed turns out not to be that bad.
Now, the comment about having to invest in chargers everywhere is still valid, for sure. As we stand now, nobody who parks in the street can use an electric car, and I'm sure rural areas are screwed without massive government aid to install the infrastructure as well. And as we all know, the country that sent a man to the moon no longer has the appetite for large public expenditures that it used to.
Now, the comment about having to invest in chargers everywhere is still valid, for sure. As we stand now, nobody who parks in the street can use an electric car, and I'm sure rural areas are screwed without massive government aid to install the infrastructure as well. And as we all know, the country that sent a man to the moon no longer has the appetite for large public expenditures that it used to.
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Gas prices will only collapse when it isn’t bought at all. This is because as demand goes down, so will production, and gas will lose its economy of scale. When you make a limited amount of something, it’s costs more to make it per unit, and you need more profit per unit. The less gas the economy needs, the less will be made. The cost of fuel will at best stay the same over a long period of time. It will likely increase. It’s basic economics. Fuel is a worldwide economy of scale. If you kill the mass scale, the price per unit will go up.
We'll revisit this at some point see what prediction was correct.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
If everyone adopts the mindset of charging at night, that won't be good for the electrical grid either. Major improvements and massive spending is going to be needed. By massive we're talking trillions.
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You can replace Prius batteries now for $1,000 or so
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Gas prices will only collapse when it isn’t bought at all. This is because as demand goes down, so will production, and gas will lose its economy of scale. When you make a limited amount of something, it’s costs more to make it per unit, and you need more profit per unit. The less gas the economy needs, the less will be made. The cost of fuel will at best stay the same over a long period of time. It will likely increase. It’s basic economics. Fuel is a worldwide economy of scale. If you kill the mass scale, the price per unit will go up.
I suggest you consider "Price Elasticity", which speaks to consumption with respect to price.
Price elasticity of demand is a measurement of the change in the consumption of a product in relation to a change in its price.
Gasoline is highly inelastic, that is we will continue to buy it (consumption), generally because we need it and there are few viable alternatives, even if the price rises.
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