Unsurprisingly manufactures appear to be pay-walling hardware
#1
Unsurprisingly manufactures appear to be pay-walling hardware
Just saw this,
the comment about the S class stood out since I know SW17LS will be able to answer if this is true or not but regardless it does trouble me that going forward we may start to see features locked out unless recurring payments are made.
#3
I have a spare 1UR-FSE on the shelf and am working on getting an S8 and spare EA824 for it as well. Same with other major wear parts since I have no faith at all in 10 years for anything I buy to be able to be worked on at all.
#4
The rear wheel steering is not a subscription feature, thats totally false.
#6
Ah so it's the new EVs that are the issue, that follows expectations. Irony here is that EVs are supposed to be more simple than a real car lol! Wow, talk about synthetically making it harder to work on/own something for pure profits. I can't wait for the lawsuits to start rolling against the poor fool who hacks the system and makes it work anyway, they would need to mass disperse the files/method for it to hope it gets out there and creates a PR nightmare. In the end it will fail due to OTA updates just recoding the cars so you CAN'T even get around it lol!
#7
Ah so it's the new EVs that are the issue, that follows expectations. Irony here is that EVs are supposed to be more simple than a real car lol! Wow, talk about synthetically making it harder to work on/own something for pure profits. I can't wait for the lawsuits to start rolling against the poor fool who hacks the system and makes it work anyway, they would need to mass disperse the files/method for it to hope it gets out there and creates a PR nightmare. In the end it will fail due to OTA updates just recoding the cars so you CAN'T even get around it lol!
Good luck hacking when everything is vin coded and encrypted, lol. Thank god I'm getting old, because soon enough all cars are going to be self driving EVs that only take you to corporate approved locations based on your climate social score, forcing you to watch lgbt ads while the car is driving. The only way to fix it is to rip all the digital controlled modules out, and swap in a good old carburetor.
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#9
You will not be able to install many new parts, as they all going to be vin coded, and you'll need expensive equipment from each manufacturers to be able to code them. It is already a huge issue.
#10
It's bad enough you currently have to pay 3-7K for a tool that allows you to work on your own cars, going forward it can get much much more difficult and expensive. There is ZERO excuse for this, with how easily modern PCs/tech cross integrates there should be no reason at all parts can't auto code themselves when you plug them in. Older cars allowed exactly that.
#11
It's already that way, the issue is right now the aftermarket has coding figured out so if I want to replace say....the window regulator in my A8 I can just install the part, then code it to the car so it works. Never mind that it's stupid I need to in the first place the point is I pay for a $4700 scan tool and the programing box and I can now freely do whatever to anything that comes along. The issue going forward with OTA updates is the OE can just change the handshake and coding protocol and now I am locked out again, taken a step further they can start to REQUIRE two way authentication that has the car constantly report all parts codes correct back home like in some server setups do for hardware control and monitoring. This would mean they can even go so far as to know if you worked on the car and then just charge you via the infotainment screen to code the part remotely before allowing the car to be used at all again.
It's bad enough you currently have to pay 3-7K for a tool that allows you to work on your own cars, going forward it can get much much more difficult and expensive. There is ZERO excuse for this, with how easily modern PCs/tech cross integrates there should be no reason at all parts can't auto code themselves when you plug them in. Older cars allowed exactly that.
It's bad enough you currently have to pay 3-7K for a tool that allows you to work on your own cars, going forward it can get much much more difficult and expensive. There is ZERO excuse for this, with how easily modern PCs/tech cross integrates there should be no reason at all parts can't auto code themselves when you plug them in. Older cars allowed exactly that.
#12
Well, thats happening more and more, and will only get more and more expensive. They will use the "emissions" excuse to lock out all aftermarket, and you'll have to to pay $20k a year subscription for authorized diagnostics equipment, to each each manufacturer. Repairs are going to become so expensive they won't even be practical anymore, the wealthier people will just lease a car, and the poorer just wont be able to afford to drive anymore.
Costs for subscriptions is already insane....10k a year
#13
It's like this with everything. Louis did a video on some sticker printer that would refuse to print on third party paper, they freaking integrate chips into individual paper sheets now. The matrix is just trolling us at this point.
#15
Thats the EQS not the S Class. I will see on MBWorld if EQS owners are having to pay a subscription but S Class owners are definitely not.