Lexus TX coming
02-09-23, 04:58 PM
#151
It's kinda unfortunate the TX will get a "550h+" nomenclature while utilizing a 4-cyl. Lexus absolutely bombed their numerical nomenclature. IMO it should be:
TX/RX500h -> TX/RX450h
TX550h+ -> TX500h+
500h is at least okay since there's LS and LC500hs with the NA V6 hybrid producing same output. But a 550h implies a higher output than *all* 500hs at least in my mind, which include the 5.0 and 3.4TTV6.
TX/RX500h -> TX/RX450h
TX550h+ -> TX500h+
500h is at least okay since there's LS and LC500hs with the NA V6 hybrid producing same output. But a 550h implies a higher output than *all* 500hs at least in my mind, which include the 5.0 and 3.4TTV6.
02-10-23, 07:07 AM
#152
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It is all about refinement, especially in a luxury vehicle. This thing wont be cheap and the last thing I want is a buzzy turbo 4 after paying $70-80k for this thing. A turbo 4 in any configuration may be fine in the NX and RX, but once you start moving up the lux ladder, that won't fly.
02-10-23, 07:12 AM
#153
Lexus Fanatic
It is all about refinement, especially in a luxury vehicle. This thing wont be cheap and the last thing I want is a buzzy turbo 4 after paying $70-80k for this thing. A turbo 4 in any configuration may be fine in the NX and RX, but once you start moving up the lux ladder, that won't fly.
I'd love to have that engine too but I just don't see it happening. Lexus needs an inline 6 for this vehicle but they don't have one and aren't going to develop one.
02-10-23, 09:27 AM
#154
Lexus Champion
02-10-23, 09:33 AM
#155
It is all about refinement, especially in a luxury vehicle. This thing wont be cheap and the last thing I want is a buzzy turbo 4 after paying $70-80k for this thing. A turbo 4 in any configuration may be fine in the NX and RX, but once you start moving up the lux ladder, that won't fly.
02-10-23, 09:42 AM
#156
Lexus Champion
That's why a person like me drives cars that weren't designed around that crap, at all. And yeah yeah, they're old I know.
But I'd rather have a sweet powertrain than the coolest Apple interface on the dash. 2.0ts are horrendous.
But I'd rather have a sweet powertrain than the coolest Apple interface on the dash. 2.0ts are horrendous.
02-10-23, 10:25 AM
#157
Lexus Fanatic
02-10-23, 10:36 AM
#158
Lexus Champion
Huh? I just mean a sweet engine or choice was part of the deal when you bought expensive luxury cars in the past.
2nd gen GS is a good example, or W140 which went from a 3.2 I6 (underpowered car but still nice I-6 engine) all the way to a 6.0L V12 which was a monster.
2nd gen GS is a good example, or W140 which went from a 3.2 I6 (underpowered car but still nice I-6 engine) all the way to a 6.0L V12 which was a monster.
02-10-23, 10:36 AM
#159
Lexus Fanatic
02-10-23, 11:16 AM
#160
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There will always be people that buy things or maybe they just arent that informed? I really dont see why with all the engineering might of Toyota, they cant make the 3.5tt work. They made the 2GR work in the GS and IS and those are rear drive platforms. The LS500 has an AWD option so it really doesnt matter what orientation the engine is.
02-10-23, 01:40 PM
#161
Lexus Fanatic
There will always be people that buy things or maybe they just arent that informed? I really dont see why with all the engineering might of Toyota, they cant make the 3.5tt work. They made the 2GR work in the GS and IS and those are rear drive platforms. The LS500 has an AWD option so it really doesnt matter what orientation the engine is.
Engine orientation does matter because it goes back to how the vehicle itself is designed. You can't just put an engine longitudinally in a vehicle designed as a primarily FWD transverse layout. The LS500 being AWD has nothing to do with how the engine and transmission sit in the vehicle or how the vehicle is designed around the engine orientation. The TX is going to be based off of the Grand Highlander and thats a transverse FWD layout.
02-10-23, 01:42 PM
#162
Lexus Fanatic
02-10-23, 01:42 PM
#163
Lexus Fanatic
02-10-23, 01:43 PM
#164
Lexus Fanatic
They are NOT gonna put the LS500 engine in the grand Highlander. I agree. Makes no sense.
Their 2.4t hybrid with the 6 speed auto is the right the option of the Grand Highlander. The 3.5 is also twin turbo, the 2.4t is not a twin turbo.
Their 2.4t hybrid with the 6 speed auto is the right the option of the Grand Highlander. The 3.5 is also twin turbo, the 2.4t is not a twin turbo.
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 02-10-23 at 05:11 PM.
02-10-23, 04:44 PM
#165
Lexus Fanatic
It cannot possibly be the same engine. Avalons, being Camry-based, have a sideways (transverse) engine-mount and FWD. GS models are RWD and have a longitudinal (for/aft) engine-mount.
You are probably thinking of the ES350 (also Camry-based), not the GS....the ES shares a lot of components with the Avalon.