Lexus TX coming
01-10-23, 08:37 AM
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I think they'll do well, as long as they get the packaging correct. These two vehicles are overdue.
01-10-23, 08:46 AM
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Quickly off the top of my head.... RWD based platform, at minimum a V6 (V6 hybrid is fine too), air suspension option, competitive smart cruise control. And NONE of that will happen for these 2 cars.
01-10-23, 09:10 AM
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Yup. In a nutshell, to be interesting these should be a slightly larger, Toyota/Lexus equivalent of the Explorer/Aviator.
01-10-23, 12:20 PM
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01-10-23, 12:34 PM
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01-10-23, 01:55 PM
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Toyota today: well we're not the worst
01-10-23, 02:13 PM
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01-10-23, 02:17 PM
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Actually the best in some areas. Tops in reliability and dealer service. Near the top in Initial Quality. My new RX has been perfect. My new IS arriving tomorrow should be the same. Not the case with my other recent vehicles. Having two less than two year old vehicles out of service isn't fun. Dealer was also out of loaners. Trying to figure out how to get a dead one towed from the garage when the dealer says the lithium battery won't likely jump. The tool to put it in neutral is in the hatch, but the dealer nor the manufacturer can tell you how to get to it. And the other vehicle was leaking hydraulic fluid and took several weeks to fix. Fun times! No thanks, back to Lexus I go.
01-10-23, 02:29 PM
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Exactly how I feel. I was waiting for a GX replacement a few years ago and it never came so I left the brand and have had two new SUVs since then. I have since lost all faith in Lexus bringing something exciting here.
01-10-23, 02:44 PM
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Actually the best in some areas. Tops in reliability and dealer service. Near the top in Initial Quality. My new RX has been perfect. My new IS arriving tomorrow should be the same. Not the case with my other recent vehicles. Having two less than two year old vehicles out of service isn't fun. Dealer was also out of loaners. Trying to figure out how to get a dead one towed from the garage when the dealer says the lithium battery won't likely jump. The tool to put it in neutral is in the hatch, but the dealer nor the manufacturer can tell you how to get to it. And the other vehicle was leaking hydraulic fluid and took several weeks to fix. Fun times! No thanks, back to Lexus I go.
A vehicle like this TX, being the best could be having the most space, the best third row, the nicest interior, the best self driving tech...SOMETHING...but I fear it will be like everything else they make, middle of the road everywhere. This one I'm watching because a transverse/FWD 3 row crossover is something I'm in the market for.
01-10-23, 03:16 PM
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I want the car itself to be the best at something, not the dealer or reliability. My Toyota/Lexus cars have spent plenty of time in the shop too.
A vehicle like this TX, being the best could be having the most space, the best third row, the nicest interior, the best self driving tech...SOMETHING...but I fear it will be like everything else they make, middle of the road everywhere. This one I'm watching because a transverse/FWD 3 row crossover is something I'm in the market for.
A vehicle like this TX, being the best could be having the most space, the best third row, the nicest interior, the best self driving tech...SOMETHING...but I fear it will be like everything else they make, middle of the road everywhere. This one I'm watching because a transverse/FWD 3 row crossover is something I'm in the market for.
01-10-23, 03:19 PM
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I've found Lexus has some of the most comfortable seats and very good Mark Levinson systems. Daily Motor rated both the Lexus Mark Levinson systems I am getting as the best for their vehicle size. Also, I've never had any of my Lexus in the shop for weeks. I'd rather be middle of the road than top and in the shop. The TX isn't even out yet...you might want to see it first.
My 2015 LS460 was in the shop for 2 weeks when it had 600 miles on it, and my 2017 LS460 was in the shop for a week with 5,000 miles on it.
I'd love to love the vehicle, but my recent experience with what they are designing doesn't give me confidence.
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01-10-23, 03:49 PM
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The seats are fine, nothing special. ML audio is also excellent, but only in the LS, I have been disappointed with the ML systems I have had in lesser cars. I'm a 7 time Lexus customer, so I am very familiar with the brand.
My 2015 LS460 was in the shop for 2 weeks when it had 600 miles on it, and my 2017 LS460 was in the shop for a week with 5,000 miles on it.
My 2015 LS460 was in the shop for 2 weeks when it had 600 miles on it, and my 2017 LS460 was in the shop for a week with 5,000 miles on it.
You are completely wrong about the Mark Levinson in "lesser" cars. Watch Daily Motor reviews of the 21 IS and 21 RX.
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01-10-23, 04:00 PM
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All the vehicles in that range have good audio systems, that doesn't move the needle for me. I want the car to make me *want* it for some reason. There just isn't anything currently made by Toyota or Lexus that does that for me right now other than the LC.
01-10-23, 04:07 PM
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I promise you I am not "wrong" about my experience with ML audio systems in cars I have owned, thanks. Not saying they aren't good in those models, just haven't been great in other models I've had with them other than the LS.
All the vehicles in that range have good audio systems, that doesn't move the needle for me. I want the car to make me *want* it for some reason. There just isn't anything currently made by Toyota or Lexus that does that for me right now other than the LC.
All the vehicles in that range have good audio systems, that doesn't move the needle for me. I want the car to make me *want* it for some reason. There just isn't anything currently made by Toyota or Lexus that does that for me right now other than the LC.