Lexus TX coming
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Ooops, One LC 500 w performance package. Hmmm interesting, I really liked the Mark Levinson in the LC 500. I used CD's to get the best quality I could out of it. As the saying goes, crap in crap out. So hopefully you are using CD or another near lossless format...sure you know that. I'll be interested to see how it compares to the 1800 watt 17 speaker Mark Levinson I am getting tomorrow in an IS 350 F Sport. I really liked my LC. Almost considered another, but wish they would bring the safety tech up to LSS 2.5 at least. And add panoramic camera. And after having 3 vehicles with that V8, I thought I might like a little lighter weight, better gas mileage, and 4 doors. FYI, Daily Motor has reviews of both the Santa Fe and LC 500 audio systems.
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What I loved about the ML in the LS was that there was no loud that was too loud, it kept its clarity and punch and tone all through the volume range. Compared to the Burmester in my Mercedes that the treble gets too sharp if its too loud, and music loses its depth if its too low, even with the sub I added. There is a specific volume range where it sounds good, but even then nowhere near as good as the ML in the LS. The other ML systems I have had and listened to just were nothing special. Not bad, just not stand out like the one in the LS was. Best Lexus systems I have had are ML in the 460, ML in the 430 and Nakamichi (still the best) in the 400.
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I continue to be disappointed that people still directly equate watts to sound quality.
Back to the TX, Toyota's platforms are getting more and more complex
https://toyota-club.net/files/faq/21...-engine_en.htm
I can see reliability taking a hit there are so many systems to go wrong. And that's just the engine, drop hybrid complexity on top of that.
.......I know I'm saying Toyota instead of Lexus that is intentional, there is little that separates Lexus from Toyota on the platform level.
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Back to the TX, Toyota's platforms are getting more and more complex
https://toyota-club.net/files/faq/21...-engine_en.htm
I can see reliability taking a hit there are so many systems to go wrong. And that's just the engine, drop hybrid complexity on top of that.
.......I know I'm saying Toyota instead of Lexus that is intentional, there is little that separates Lexus from Toyota on the platform level.
https://toyota-club.net/files/faq/21...-engine_en.htm
I can see reliability taking a hit there are so many systems to go wrong. And that's just the engine, drop hybrid complexity on top of that.
.......I know I'm saying Toyota instead of Lexus that is intentional, there is little that separates Lexus from Toyota on the platform level.
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Most of all this stuff is just marketing
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I'm not having high hopes for the TX. It will still be the smallest in the segment and tightest 3rd row. It will have the powertrains lifted from the new RX, maybe not the basic hybrid since it might be too heavy. Seeing how they screwed up the 3rd row in the Sequoia just makes me cringe just thinking how bad the TX will be.
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Watts is very important for audio. You need power. To reproduce a good audio source, you will want those watts. that said, 1000 watts in car is about the most you need over is overkill TBH. 35 speakers is not needed. It all depends on the source as well 6 track audio is the best.
Most of all this stuff is just marketing
Most of all this stuff is just marketing
1,000 watts means nothing if you buy an amp at the flea market.
Ask me how I know.
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Watts is just the power and like mentioned it's all marketing.
On sub par systems the "watts" don't equate to perceived volume or sound quality- not the same thing- means nothing.
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Watts is very important for audio. You need power. So reproduce a good audio source, you will want those watts. that said, 1000 watts in car is about the most you need over is overkill TBH. 35 speakers is not needed. It all depends on the source as well 6 track audio is the best.
Most of all this stuff is just marketing
Most of all this stuff is just marketing
1000, 1500, 1800 watts or whatever is just marketing nonsense.
For reference, here is an 840 watt car audio amplifier:
Here is an 80 watt home amplifier:
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I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader which one sounds better.
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Watts is very important for audio. You need power. To reproduce a good audio source, you will want those watts. that said, 1000 watts in car is about the most you need over is overkill TBH. 35 speakers is not needed. It all depends on the source as well 6 track audio is the best.
Most of all this stuff is just marketing
Most of all this stuff is just marketing
I'm not having high hopes for the TX. It will still be the smallest in the segment and tightest 3rd row. It will have the powertrains lifted from the new RX, maybe not the basic hybrid since it might be too heavy. Seeing how they screwed up the 3rd row in the Sequoia just makes me cringe just thinking how bad the TX will be.
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From what I remember, power has a meaning. As we introduced new/improved products, power was always on the list to achieve. As for audio, depending how much the volume is, more or less power/number of speakers is needed to provide a pleasant sound in that space. Certainly a stronger/more power amp will need to work (crank) less to reach the pleasant level. A less power amp may also get to that level but the amp will need to work harder (crank higher). As it's needed to work harder, it may be in non ideal state (non linear) of the amp causing the output to be non proportional to the input resulting an unpleasant/distorted sound. Similarly, a V4 and V6/8 all can get to certain speed, but V6/8 certainly can get with much less effort and smoother. No?