sure. If it’s cheap enough. This is as fast as a IS500 V8. Then there will be a faster 53 and a 63. And then a super expensive EV

 

Agreed, for better or worse.

Hard to call it a mistake when Mercedes cares none at all about the aftermarket.

People always say that about the AMG 2.0Ts yet they still manage to reliably crank out more power for those that just have to mod them. They're stout engines.

 

maybe it's from seeing lots of mitsubishi evo videos but that doesn't sound like a problem to me... That Racing Channel had the 'famous' sequential evo 9, that has a 2.2L 4 cyl and the engine has lasted over 10 years now making 55+ psi and 1100 whp! also it has not had an easy life

 

The aftermarket matters a lot so your brand continues to have a strong following and presence that inspires people to buy it. It's why Lexus is not known for performance/enthusiasts whatsoever vs BMW/Mercedes/Audi/anyone else.

There is nothing to aspire toward. AMGs used to be insane from the factory with headroom to spare to really make it into something special.

 

I'd rather get the IS500 in this price range.

 

2.0s get the rep for blowing up form K20s that aren't built 100% right and from stock internal VW engines....build them right and 5-600 is safe and will have a good enough service life.

Past that level get more cylinders/spread the load out over more parts so it has a good service life. Modern V8s can comfortably do 1000hp with little effort

 

The vast majority of people who mod their cars buy them used. Mercedes does not need the aftermarket to have a strong following and is why Mercedes' aftermarket presence is dramatically smaller than its German peers. Their high-profit margin business model does not cater to the crowd you're describing.

 

yup lets compare a mass production car with one that has probably $100 of 1000s in aftermarket work and a high level of expertise to keep it running

 

Just as an FYI, since MB stopped making V8 AMGs, a lot of these buyers have gone elsewhere. I spoke to my BMW CA yesterday and they have huge wait lists on all their M and M40i models as former AMG owners have nowhere else to go. Porsche has also crazy waitlists even on a Macan S!

The demand is still there for 6 and 8cyl cars.
Those that want EVs are a different consumer imo.

 

Looks like an Electrical Nightmare.

 

Mercedes opened their order books back up for several V8 AMGs. Those have huge waiting lists too. The 6 cylinder “53” models never left the market and have long wait times as well.

The C-class and GLC are the only models losing their higher cylinder counts for their next generation.

 

Which V8s are still available?
I’m only aware of S580, Gwagon and new SL still getting the engines. All other AMG and V8s were cancelled for 2022.

The only easy to get models are the 4cyl and hybrid crap that nobody wants.
Then when you look at sales #s - it’s deceiving as it doesn’t indicate more ppl would buy the larger displacement motors if they were being produced.

The supply shortages and EV switch are the perfect storm that is killing the last of the ICE performance engines.

 

An AMG EV drivetrain would be a better option. Get that poor 4.6s down to a healthy high 3s 0-60 with sublime NVH in a Mercedes quality cabin. You are right in that most manufacturers have stopped development on the high performance engines and have shifted R&D to the transition but its stupid that they don't ride out their V8 offerings to the bitter end. Maybe the fuel regulations across Europe has finally put a nail in the V8 coffin.

 

Not really since t will kill the emotion. Just go a day with earplugs in..........you are loosing an entire sense of experience by not having the engine sound.

 

GLE, GLS, and G-wagen V8 orders opened back up in late Feb. S63 orders will open later this year. The E-class and C-class were left out as they directed engines to the highest profit margin cars.

We should be getting news on the next-gen E-Class in the next couple of months. While early reports suggested it will share the C-class engine lineup, recent reports from German outlets are saying it will get both 4-cylinder and 8-cylinder variants (makes sense to compete with hybrid V8 M5).