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Old 05-02-22, 03:32 AM
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I wouldn't worry about the engine dying on uphills with the integrated water/oil heat exchanger, variable oil & water pump and all that. I WOULD worry about the precedent they're setting by not offering, say, the 3.5l v6 hybrid option that they've had since... like 2008 or so? Like c'mon, it won't be operating outside its efficient BSFC range very often with how much this vehicle typically weights when laden.
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Old 05-02-22, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
That's the problem. I no longer have two screaming kids sitting in the back to drown out that annoying engine sound
That can always be fixed lol

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Toyota makes more gas only RAV4s so of course they outsell the hybrid version. But we all know the Prime and hybrid version of the RAV4 are more in demand than the gas version.
This logic doesnt make sense lol.

I wonder how much cheaper the price of the Carnival and Pacifica has to be for me to seriously consider it. The fire risks hold me back.
Just don't buy a hybrid Pacifica. The "fire risk" is only for the hybrid, and only if you plug it in.

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I wouldn't worry about the engine dying on uphills with the integrated water/oil heat exchanger, variable oil & water pump and all that. I WOULD worry about the precedent they're setting by not offering, say, the 3.5l v6 hybrid option that they've had since... like 2008 or so? Like c'mon, it won't be operating outside its efficient BSFC range very often with how much this vehicle typically weights when laden.
The issue is not the engine "dying", it just doesnt have enough power in that scenario to move the van confidently.
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Old 05-02-22, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by EZZ
If they made a V6 hybrid that got 25-30 mpg and near 300hp, that would version would be the most compelling. It's underpowered right now.
That would be the V6 hybrid in my Highlander. 28 mpg and 306 hp.

What makes the Pacifica Hybrid nice is the V6 gives it a smoothness that the Sienna Hybrid lacks. The Pacifica Hybrid is heavier and only has 15 more horsepower than the Sienna, but it gets a pass because of the smoothness.
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Old 05-02-22, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76
That would be the V6 hybrid in my Highlander. 28 mpg and 306 hp.

What makes the Pacifica Hybrid nice is the V6 gives it a smoothness that the Sienna Hybrid lacks. The Pacifica Hybrid is heavier and only has 15 more horsepower than the Sienna, but it gets a pass because of the smoothness.
That's..... not what I expected to hear. Is the 2GR comparably rough or something?
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Originally Posted by Lwerewolf
That's..... not what I expected to hear. Is the 2GR comparably rough or something?
The 2GR-FXE in the previous model Highlander Hybrid is super smooth and one of the reasons why we chose it. I am referring to the Sienna Hybrid, with the 4 cylinder. That setup is just not as smooth as a good V6.
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Sorry, I misread. Agreed.
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Originally Posted by JDR76
That would be the V6 hybrid in my Highlander. 28 mpg and 306 hp.

What makes the Pacifica Hybrid nice is the V6 gives it a smoothness that the Sienna Hybrid lacks. The Pacifica Hybrid is heavier and only has 15 more horsepower than the Sienna, but it gets a pass because of the smoothness.
That would be perfectly acceptable to me
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
That can always be fixed lol
Please don't give my wife any ideasThis 54 year old is done! I love kids, I wish I had more when I was younger, but now I'm done!
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Please don't give my wife any ideasThis 54 year old is done! I love kids, I wish I had more when I was younger, but now I'm done!
Oh I'm with ya, I'm 41 and we have 7 year old twins...I'm done! I have a friend who had his first at 50...no thanks!
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Oh I'm with ya, I'm 41 and we have 7 year old twins...I'm done! I have a friend who had his first at 50...no thanks!
Attending his high school graduation at 68? I couldn't even imagine. I thought my parents being 35 when I was born was too much. Lol
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
Attending his high school graduation at 68? I couldn't even imagine. I thought my parents being 35 when I was born was too much. Lol
And knowing this guy, its a debate if he even makes it to 68 lol
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
Attending his high school graduation at 68? I couldn't even imagine. I thought my parents being 35 when I was born was too much. Lol
Had my daughter in 2000 and my son in 2003 when I was still in my 30's. I regret not having more kids, but I have a boy and girl so I'm happy! My daughter is about to get her bachelors in Psychology from UC Irvine, my son is in his first year in college...they have costed me a fortune, hopefully they will pay it all back by taking care of us in our old age like we are doing with our father right now. I've always tried my best to teach them to think about others above themselves
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My mom has always said I am her greatest investment lol
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
My mom has always said I am her greatest investment lol
That's awesome! My kids are my "biggest investment"...hopefully they give me a good return
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Had my daughter in 2000 and my son in 2003 when I was still in my 30's. I regret not having more kids, but I have a boy and girl so I'm happy! My daughter is about to get her bachelors in Psychology from UC Irvine, my son is in his first year in college...they have costed me a fortune, hopefully they will pay it all back by taking care of us in our old age like we are doing with our father right now. I've always tried my best to teach them to think about others above themselves
Elon is still having kids and he is 50. Never too late
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