What will happen to the price of gas when EVs take over?
05-10-22, 04:18 PM
#106
Lexus Fanatic
And?
Not to impress anybody about how much they want to save the planet no.
Oh please lol. Nothing is going to be credible to you unless it says what you believe.
What I find funny is that your own indignation about EVs is whats "self righteous".
So your position is that someone who buys a $140k Plaid doesn't want to impress anyone?
Car and Driver has been garbage fake news, EV pushers for years now. It's about as credible to me as CNN. Also, do you know how many forums I read where there are lots, and lots and LOTS of EV (not just Tesla) owners touting their cheap charging bills, thinking Uncle Sam won't ever get to them? And good for them, though Uncle Sam is coming big time.
What I find funny is that your own indignation about EVs is whats "self righteous".
05-10-22, 04:21 PM
#107
Lexus Champion
Its called showing off the latest trend. I actually kinda do the same and jokingly mock my friends that my cars have 2-4 times the power as theirs and get better mpg.....
Same thing with the Tesla owners, it's a flaunting thing. You do similar with your "bragging" of how capable and durable your 570 is lol! Everyone tends to do so when they have nice stuff, it's a way the excitement and positive experience bleeds over since that's what we have been conditioned to expect/do/see when someone has something nice.
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Same thing with the Tesla owners, it's a flaunting thing. You do similar with your "bragging" of how capable and durable your 570 is lol! Everyone tends to do so when they have nice stuff, it's a way the excitement and positive experience bleeds over since that's what we have been conditioned to expect/do/see when someone has something nice.
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05-10-22, 04:32 PM
#108
Lexus Champion
Range goes down the tubes in severely cold weather. I really don't want to start this dead tired debate up again.
Ok I'll grant you that one. Though I'm sure a Plaid owner or two has touted that it's an EV. And good for them.
Right back at ya, though it's not what I believe. It's what I know. Car and Driver has become a disgrace, the founders of that magazine are spinning. I'm talking about how they've gone pure political garbage, not just touting EVs as the next Jesus Christ. (Which is very annoying too and they do plenty of.)
What I find funny is when you try to analyze me.
Ok I'll grant you that one. Though I'm sure a Plaid owner or two has touted that it's an EV. And good for them.
05-10-22, 04:37 PM
#109
Lexus Test Driver
I clearly said my opinion wasn't directed at you. No need to get insulted. Car and Driver is absolute garbage, I canceled my subscription after 30 plus years. And if you think the enviro people don't drive these with self righteous attitudes at all you're just wrong. I did not say this is all EV owners or you, but there are lots of those out there.
05-10-22, 04:38 PM
#110
Lexus Champion
I didn't take what you said as an insult. I was just pointing out that C&D mirrored my own experience. I don't think we have been insulting each other at all and have just been discussing our points. I don't find C&D any better / worse than any of the other publications out there.
05-10-22, 04:45 PM
#111
Lexus Champion
If we decide to move to CA, we'll get an electric car. Nothing about saving the Earth. Nothing about speed/power. Nothing about the latest trends or trying to show off. I'd get an electric, likely a Tesla, because I'll have a long commute. I don't want to go to the gas station every other day. I don't want to pay for oil changes every three months. I don't want to burn a bunch of gas (money) while sitting in traffic. I hardly think I'm alone in these motivations.
05-10-22, 04:50 PM
#112
Lexus Champion
05-10-22, 04:50 PM
#113
Lexus Champion
If we decide to move to CA, we'll get an electric car. Nothing about saving the Earth. Nothing about speed/power. Nothing about the latest trends or trying to show off. I'd get an electric, likely a Tesla, because I'll have a long commute. I don't want to go to the gas station every other day. I don't want to pay for oil changes every three months. I don't want to burn a bunch of gas (money) while sitting in traffic. I hardly think I'm alone in these motivations.
05-10-22, 05:00 PM
#115
Lexus Champion
Fair enough, though I don't know how much I'd trust a 300 mile range in traffic where I was in the thick of LA with a "long commute". At least where I was.
05-10-22, 05:02 PM
#116
Lexus Champion
The commute would be about 80 miles each way, so 160 round trip. I'd just top up over night in the garage. I'm sure that would be fine. I don't need 300 miles of range.
05-10-22, 05:06 PM
#117
Lexus Test Driver
05-10-22, 05:08 PM
#118
Lexus Test Driver
Actually, in traffic, the Tesla gets waaaaay better range. You can probably get 350 miles if traffic was crawling at 50mph vs. 250 miles at 75mph.
05-10-22, 05:19 PM
#119
Lexus Fanatic
Right back at ya, though it's not what I believe. It's what I know. Car and Driver has become a disgrace, the founders of that magazine are spinning. I'm talking about how they've gone pure political garbage, not just touting EVs as the next Jesus Christ. (Which is very annoying too and they do plenty of.)
Like it or not, EVs are the future. Its obvious that they are. Every carmaker has committed to being EV only basically.
What I find funny is when you try to analyze me.
Just don't accuse other people of being self righteous when you yourself are self righteous.
The industry is going to go the way its going to go, and constantly complaining about what is absolutely going to be the future is just annoying for everybody. Within the next 10 years, the only new cars worth being excited about are going to be EVs. Like it or not. I like sedans...sedans are dead. I like V8s...V8s are dead. Me complaining about that achieves nothing.
Last edited by SW17LS; 05-10-22 at 05:25 PM.
05-10-22, 05:42 PM
#120
Lexus Champion
The same way every nightly news at 6:30 is a disgrace. Same way USA Today has become a disgrace, Time Magazine, I could go on. C&D now just spins yarn trying to get us all excited about EVs.
I'm not analyzing you, but you have an idea of what a car should be and you tout that idea as what cars should be. Your opinion there is in direct conflict with where cars are going, and to you these things are a travesty. That is the definition of self righteousness. Its not just EVs its engines, emissions, etc.
That statement is absolute garbage.