General Car Conversation
06-11-22, 02:38 PM
#151
Missed where you said no screen was wanted. Nothing wrong with the standard radio, that is how my 04 4R is, it is nice to drive my suv without the screen from time to time. But the new one we have is great too . Was it was to buy it like that back then? Or did you have to special order….
I think luxury items are best when you get the new technology. Those Lexus screen were sharp at the time.
I think luxury items are best when you get the new technology. Those Lexus screen were sharp at the time.
I'm not sure what the buying experience was like back then.I agree, tech is always best when new. Problem is, it advances so quickly whereas buttons don't care how old they are. Lol
06-11-22, 02:52 PM
#152
Lexus Fanatic
I get it 100% now why you and I agree on a lot, I also own a base LS430. Took me over a year to find it, no way did I want that screen and that was in 2012. My buddy has a higher up one and I wish I had the soft close doors and alcantara headline but I know he hates that screen even though he won't admit it to me. Hard pass on that one. I also wouldn't put any aftermarket screens on mine, ever.
06-11-22, 02:54 PM
#153
I get it 100% now why you and I agree on a lot, I also own a base LS430. Took me over a year to find it, no way did I want that screen and that was in 2012. My buddy has a higher up one and I wish I had the soft close doors and alcantara headline but I know he hates that screen even though he won't admit it to me. Hard pass on that one. I also wouldn't put any aftermarket screens on mine, ever.
Too bad with Lexus you couldn't fully customize a car. Instead a lot of things you don't want are thrown into packages.
06-11-22, 03:05 PM
#155
Lexus Fanatic
06-11-22, 03:12 PM
#157
Not sure how likely it is to have a screen that doesn't work but I can't recall ever having a button not work in my cars. I imagine it's a much easier fix than getting the screen to work again.
06-11-22, 03:15 PM
#158
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
and the idea that “I only have to replace it every 3 years” the timing belt on the LS430 is $1,500 at a good shop. That’s $500 a year just for that one maintenance item, and on a car that’s only worth a few thousand dollars. That’s a big deal. “I’ve never seen one break” yeah, until you do and the car is done. And you’re driving a car that could happen to when you don’t do the belt at any time. Big reason why I wouldn’t drive my 03 ES300 on a long trip.
06-11-22, 03:17 PM
#159
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
What I mean was, having a 15 year old screen in a car is just awful. At least to me it is. Buttons, you don't have to worry abut having such an old screen in your vehicle because it never existed.
Not sure how likely it is to have a screen that doesn't work but I can't recall ever having a button not work in my cars. I imagine it's a much easier fix than getting the screen to work again.
Not sure how likely it is to have a screen that doesn't work but I can't recall ever having a button not work in my cars. I imagine it's a much easier fix than getting the screen to work again.
06-11-22, 03:19 PM
#160
Yeah, not for everybody lol.
and the idea that “I only have to replace it every 3 years” the timing belt on the LS430 is $1,500 at a good shop. That’s $500 a year just for that one maintenance item, and on a car that’s only worth a few thousand dollars. That’s a big deal. “I’ve never seen one break” yeah, until you do and the car is done. And you’re driving a car that could happen to when you don’t do the belt at any time. Big reason why I wouldn’t drive my 03 ES300 on a long trip.
and the idea that “I only have to replace it every 3 years” the timing belt on the LS430 is $1,500 at a good shop. That’s $500 a year just for that one maintenance item, and on a car that’s only worth a few thousand dollars. That’s a big deal. “I’ve never seen one break” yeah, until you do and the car is done. And you’re driving a car that could happen to when you don’t do the belt at any time. Big reason why I wouldn’t drive my 03 ES300 on a long trip.
At least if it did break on a trip, it wouldn't nuke the engine since that's a non-interference engine. Just have to wait for a tow truck.
EDIT: the last paragraph was directed for you, meaning if you took your ES on a trip. Sorry for not clarifying.
Last edited by xjokerz; 06-11-22 at 03:37 PM.
06-11-22, 03:24 PM
#161
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Hey, sometimes you can't place a value on what you like. If you like the car so much and you can easily budget for the maintenance, who cares what it's worth?
At least if it did break on a trip, it wouldn't nuke the engine since that's a non-interference engine. Just have to wait for a tow truck.
At least if it did break on a trip, it wouldn't nuke the engine since that's a non-interference engine. Just have to wait for a tow truck.
There’s a reason why manufacturers have ditched belts for chains, they’re just better. Less maintenance.
It’s one of the reasons why the 460 is less expensive to maintain than a 430 despite having more expensive issues that can go wrong. Every 90k miles the 430 WILL cost you $1,500.
06-11-22, 03:25 PM
#162
Lexus Fanatic
I do like the none screen LS. But to me, it’s too much like a Toyota than it is a luxury car IMO
06-11-22, 03:26 PM
#163
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
The 460 without the screen (which existed in 2007) look even worse.
06-11-22, 03:32 PM
#164
Lexus Fanatic
When the timing belt or chain breaks, either the fully-open valves hit the piston on its way up or they don't.