Originally Posted by bitkahuna

i didn't say it was only for geezers, but i did say that's likely who is driving most of the 430s still on the road.

Originally Posted by bitkahuna

eventually everyone may ride in one.



(i knew 'ls430 hearse' would give hits )

Originally Posted by bitkahuna

then you should be all over EVs... even more 'smooth and buttery' - check out the i7 video i just posted in that thread.

Originally Posted by bitkahuna

then you should be all over EVs... even more 'smooth and buttery' -

Originally Posted by AJT123

Lol who cares anyway, the ages of LS430 drivers aren't germane. The point is, they're such good cars people hang on to them unlike virtually any other high-end luxury sedan from that era.

See I could say the same thing about my LS, driving it through the desert at 125-130 for several, several hours on end on a desolate interstate. I'll never forget that. Striker you don't think so but LS430 is just as good of an autobahn runner as a Mercedes (or at least, it sure doesn't disappoint). It was engineered for plenty of high speed driving hence the lowest in production drag (at the time) and the in Japanese wind tunnels where they tested bullet trains etc. etc.

I'm sorry but the 4.6 just isn't as smooth and buttery as the 4.3, ever. I own the 5.7L version of the UR, plenty smooth and refined but those original Lexus V8s were just out of this world.

Originally Posted by AJT123

What is the Tesla test drive experience like when there’s no dealer?

Why the hell not.

Originally Posted by Striker223

That's just not accurate man sorry lol! I can back to back my cars one after the other on 71 between the Marengo and Delaware exits doing 155 and the Lexus car just aren't the same tier. It's great yes, totally above any normal car but it's the bottom of the pack against the Germans with the LS460 being the closest.

I will say though the guy I sold it to is absolutely loving the car, he is enthralled with it 100% and has called me a few times already with how fast/responsive/amazing it is and how 100 feels like 60 lol!

Originally Posted by bitkahuna

the tesla show room is like a dealer without the slimy salespeople.

Originally Posted by jrmckinley

yep, if you have a Tesla showroom nearby you can do test drives there. They sell all of their cars at the end of each quarter, so they likely won't have any cars starting around mid June until they get replenished (typically about 4 weeks- so mid July). You should drive the Model S.

Originally Posted by AJT123

Problem is I can see quality flaws in nearly every one just from the naked eye, the panel gap inconsistencies aren’t good. I don’t mean to be picky but my cars have crazy good panel gaps.

Originally Posted by jrmckinley

If you're just there to test drive and see what the Tesla driving experience is like, who cares about panel gaps?

Originally Posted by AJT123

Bro I own an SL roadster I’ve taken to nearly 140. There isn’t much difference in high speed stability between the two.

Curvy roads at high speeds may be a different story, but in terms of just freight training it down the interstate at high speed, LS430 can roll with the best.

Just like the Mercedes, the faster you go the better it feels. If only the speed limits were 100. Both cars feel/track amazing at that speed.

Originally Posted by Striker223

But there is the problem! You just said it yourself.....curves at speed. A Dodge Charger can do 150 all day in a straight line too lol!