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#4501
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Maybe I'm just getting old...but I am finding I will take lighter weight vs more power. I've had some powerful vehicles M550i, 992 Carrera S, Cayenne Turbo, LC 500, RC F, GS F. Most of that power goes unused in daily driving. Two of the most fun were a Miata and a 718 GTS 4 cylinder. You can in your daily driving take some fast turns. I am actually enjoying the 23 IS 350 F Sport with sport handling packing more than I've enjoyed a car in a while weirdly enough. More than GS F and LC 500. It turns, brakes, and handles great. I finally got it broke in this week and gave it the beans...not going to throw you back in your seat or win many races....but it's still fun to drive. Just something I've figured out about what I like as I get older.
#4502
Pole Position
Maybe I'm just getting old...but I am finding I will take lighter weight vs more power. I've had some powerful vehicles M550i, 992 Carrera S, Cayenne Turbo, LC 500, RC F, GS F. Most of that power goes unused in daily driving. Two of the most fun were a Miata and a 718 GTS 4 cylinder. You can in your daily driving take some fast turns. I am actually enjoying the 23 IS 350 F Sport with sport handling packing more than I've enjoyed a car in a while weirdly enough. More than GS F and LC 500. It turns, brakes, and handles great. I finally got it broke in this week and gave it the beans...not going to throw you back in your seat or win many races....but it's still fun to drive. Just something I've figured out about what I like as I get older.
#4505
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
But they feel fast, thats the point. You can wind them out through all the gears (have to get a manual) and stay within reasonably legal speeds, where something with a ton of power you just can't do that on a public road (well, reasonable people wouldn't lol)
#4506
Lexus Fanatic
But Miatas are NOT the car for you if you want a lot of space, easy entry/exit (particularly if you are tall or heavy), or find a lot of noise/vibration and high engine-revs annoying. They are final-geared for high-rpms, have a lot of engine noise, a short wheelbase, relatively stiff suspension, and a firm, sometimes choppy ride. Seat-adjustments inside are extremely limited, and it can be difficult to find a comfortable position for large-sized people. They are mostly for local winding-road fun, not coast-to-coast cruising on Interstates
Last edited by mmarshall; 06-07-23 at 05:50 PM.
#4507
Lexus Champion
I taught myself how to drive a stick in my parents’ 1994 Miata when I was 11-12, their driveway is hilly.
Then I used to sneak it out all the time, whoops.
It was the updated one with the actual good looking wheels. Red with tan leather and top. It was a blast.
As pointed out, though, not your first choice to drive from NY to CA.
Then I used to sneak it out all the time, whoops.
It was the updated one with the actual good looking wheels. Red with tan leather and top. It was a blast.
As pointed out, though, not your first choice to drive from NY to CA.
#4508
Lexus Fanatic
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the lightness and 50/50 weight distribution with a convertible roof that can be lowered or raised by one hand in a couple of seconds are just magical.
it may no win drag races (not that i cared) but the feeling going around corners is just amazing. i had a stick too for extra fun points. go find one to drive some time!
#4509
Lexus Champion
i owned a miata for a couple of years. would likely still have it but circumstances required me to sell it. it was by far the most fun car i've ever owned.
the lightness and 50/50 weight distribution with a convertible roof that can be lowered or raised by one hand in a couple of seconds are just magical.
it may no win drag races (not that i cared) but the feeling going around corners is just amazing. i had a stick too for extra fun points. go find one to drive some time!
"extremely slow" is relative. u.s. public roads have speed limits up to 70 or so... i didn't enjoy the miata for a LONG boring highway/turnpike drive (rather noisy, although not uncomfortable), but for errands and back country roads fun trips it was wonderful. i actually find VERY fast cars to be boring, because you get to 100 in a few seconds, then what? i know for you, keep going faster, but i don't want to kill someone, or myself, or get an expensive ticket. i'd much rather drive an NA porsche than a monster turbo one (i've driven both). my brother's carrera 4s (NA) is amazing, and still very fast.
the lightness and 50/50 weight distribution with a convertible roof that can be lowered or raised by one hand in a couple of seconds are just magical.
it may no win drag races (not that i cared) but the feeling going around corners is just amazing. i had a stick too for extra fun points. go find one to drive some time!
"extremely slow" is relative. u.s. public roads have speed limits up to 70 or so... i didn't enjoy the miata for a LONG boring highway/turnpike drive (rather noisy, although not uncomfortable), but for errands and back country roads fun trips it was wonderful. i actually find VERY fast cars to be boring, because you get to 100 in a few seconds, then what? i know for you, keep going faster, but i don't want to kill someone, or myself, or get an expensive ticket. i'd much rather drive an NA porsche than a monster turbo one (i've driven both). my brother's carrera 4s (NA) is amazing, and still very fast.
Cars where people praise the handling a lot usually have nothing else going for them lol! When the same car comes in a version with 30-100% more power why would I punish myself with the slow one?
Last edited by Striker223; 06-07-23 at 08:01 PM.
#4510
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Well laa dee dah lol
You’re a power guy, but as you get older that will relax some. Hurtling down the highway at 130 MPH isn’t as appealing once the consequences could ruin your life and the lives of a bunch of other people. Having fun below 80 becomes a lot more appealing.
You’re a power guy, but as you get older that will relax some. Hurtling down the highway at 130 MPH isn’t as appealing once the consequences could ruin your life and the lives of a bunch of other people. Having fun below 80 becomes a lot more appealing.
#4511
Lexus Champion
Well laa dee dah lol
You’re a power guy, but as you get older that will relax some. Hurtling down the highway at 130 MPH isn’t as appealing once the consequences could ruin your life and the lives of a bunch of other people. Having fun below 80 becomes a lot more appealing.
You’re a power guy, but as you get older that will relax some. Hurtling down the highway at 130 MPH isn’t as appealing once the consequences could ruin your life and the lives of a bunch of other people. Having fun below 80 becomes a lot more appealing.
#4512
I like cars that have both power and you can side though corners and a Miata just isn't that. Same with Porsche, I would never get anything other than a turbo S since it can do everything a slower one can AND still deliver insane power.
Cars where people praise the handling a lot usually have nothing else going for them lol!
Cars where people praise the handling a lot usually have nothing else going for them lol!
#4513
Lexus Champion
Turbo S won't feel the same as a rwd 911. It's all about the feel for me. Many on Rennlist mention a base or model T 992 stickshift with minimal options is one of the most fun to drive on the street. You can rev it out more for daily driving. I didn't listen and bought a "S" model pdk for the 0-60 in 2.9. I lived and learned. I still have a lot to learn LOL. I think James May said something along the lines of it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Enjoy your power Striker...nothing wrong with it if you are careful...it's hard to resist.
For me the feel I want is power at all times, speeds, and mid corner or full lock pulling out of a entrance etc....high cornering loads and high braking loads as well. Just an all around assault is great, a lower power car is lacking in some of that. I also like high end sedans since when you are done they are extremely nice to just waft around in.
The only time I want a weak car is if it feels really fast due to size and violence of the drive, like a convertible or something like that where the whole car flexes and feels panicked. I drove an older XK V8 that was like that with an insanely loud exhaust and it was not at all fast but the violence and great sound made it fun.
#4514
The older BMW's from the 90's/early 2000's didn't have mind-blowing power numbers but that wasn't why you bought one. They were insanely fun to drive. I'm with those who would rather have a tight handling car with great steering feedback than seeing how much power I can get. You can absolutely still have fun with cars around 200 hp. Not everything needs to be some monstrous power rating. Lol
#4515
Lexus Test Driver
Well laa dee dah lol
You’re a power guy, but as you get older that will relax some. Hurtling down the highway at 130 MPH isn’t as appealing once the consequences could ruin your life and the lives of a bunch of other people. Having fun below 80 becomes a lot more appealing.
You’re a power guy, but as you get older that will relax some. Hurtling down the highway at 130 MPH isn’t as appealing once the consequences could ruin your life and the lives of a bunch of other people. Having fun below 80 becomes a lot more appealing.
When I as young, revving the motor and neutral dropping to screech the the tires was pretty much a necessity at every traffic light.
Yeah, I was a nut! lol
Need NOS!
Turbo S won't feel the same as a rwd 911. It's all about the feel for me. Many on Rennlist mention a base or model T 992 stickshift with minimal options is one of the most fun to drive on the street. You can rev it out more for daily driving. I didn't listen and bought a "S" model pdk for the 0-60 in 2.9. I lived and learned. I still have a lot to learn LOL. I think James May said something along the lines of it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow. Enjoy your power Striker...nothing wrong with it if you are careful...it's hard to resist.
The older BMW's from the 90's/early 2000's didn't have mind-blowing power numbers but that wasn't why you bought one. They were insanely fun to drive. I'm with those who would rather have a tight handling car with great steering feedback than seeing how much power I can get. You can absolutely still have fun with cars around 200 hp. Not everything needs to be some monstrous power rating. Lol
Such a fun car.