General Car Conversation
06-29-23, 03:04 PM
#4922
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
I tell you, I have never had less desire to buy a new car. All of the fun of it is just gone. Said we were going to go look at a Carnival, I have to go to Woodbridge, or Annapolis to even find one to drive...and those are marked up $7,000. And thats a Carnival minivan!
06-29-23, 03:49 PM
#4923
Lexus Fanatic
You once had a Sedona, I remember. Might be worth your time to see if the salesperson you bought (or leased?) it from is still around at that dealership. Salespeople and dealerships usually like repeat customers, and they might give you a decent deal. (A good deal these days seems to be list-price LOL)
They wanted $3000 over list for my brother's new Kia Seltos SX in Falls Church (36K for a 33K vehicle). But, when I looked the salesperson straight in the eye (who remembered us from previous new vehicles there) and told him that, as far as I was concerned (and my brother agreed) that, as a repeat customer for our fourth new vehicle there, I considered ANY markup over list to be a personal insult to us, he went back, consulted the manager, and came back, and agreed to list.
(And don't kid yourself.....they still usually make a decent profit selling at list. But that's only fair...they have to make enough to be able to pay their own bills and stay in buisness)
Last edited by mmarshall; 06-29-23 at 04:06 PM.
06-29-23, 03:50 PM
#4924
Lexus Test Driver
Have to drive all that way and to get ADMs, not auch a good deal.
06-29-23, 03:52 PM
#4925
Pole Position
I don't know that it's ever been fun for me. It's just a total time suck - either driving distance to find what you want, time spent negotiating the deal, or both. When I bought my Tesla (pre owned), the actual buying process was incredibly fast but I found myself annoyed because I had negotiated the price of the car in advance but didn't know they put some type of paint protection and also some type of gas in all 4 tires on every car they sell. Guaranteed margin for them. I felt like I negotiated a good price and then got hit with those things.. Online ordering would be the way to go. The industry needs to adapt.
06-29-23, 04:31 PM
#4926
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
You once had a Sedona, I remember. Might be worth your time to see if the salesperson you bought (or leased?) it from is still around at that dealership. Salespeople and dealerships usually like repeat customers, and they might give you a decent deal. (A good deal these days seems to be list-price LOL)
They wanted $3000 over list for my brother's new Kia Seltos SX in Falls Church (36K for a 33K vehicle). But, when I looked the salesperson straight in the eye (who remembered us from previous new vehicles there) and told him that, as far as I was concerned (and my brother agreed) that, as a repeat customer for our fourth new vehicle there, I considered ANY markup over list to be a personal insult to us, he went back, consulted the manager, and came back, and agreed to list.
(And don't kid yourself.....they still usually make a decent profit selling at list. But that's only fair...they have to make enough to be able to pay their own bills and stay in buisness)
They wanted $3000 over list for my brother's new Kia Seltos SX in Falls Church (36K for a 33K vehicle). But, when I looked the salesperson straight in the eye (who remembered us from previous new vehicles there) and told him that, as far as I was concerned (and my brother agreed) that, as a repeat customer for our fourth new vehicle there, I considered ANY markup over list to be a personal insult to us, he went back, consulted the manager, and came back, and agreed to list.
(And don't kid yourself.....they still usually make a decent profit selling at list. But that's only fair...they have to make enough to be able to pay their own bills and stay in buisness)
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I don't know that it's ever been fun for me. It's just a total time suck - either driving distance to find what you want, time spent negotiating the deal, or both. When I bought my Tesla (pre owned), the actual buying process was incredibly fast but I found myself annoyed because I had negotiated the price of the car in advance but didn't know they put some type of paint protection and also some type of gas in all 4 tires on every car they sell. Guaranteed margin for them. I felt like I negotiated a good price and then got hit with those things.. Online ordering would be the way to go. The industry needs to adapt.
06-29-23, 05:41 PM
#4927
Lexus Champion
I also don't really have the "want" right now at all, the W12 tamed it after I spent 5 years looking for the "next one" and then buying it and repeating the process. I don't really have a desire anymore and what would I even buy? I have like 2 options above what I already have and they aren't quite the same "feel" of car, and again I don't have the pull toward them.
06-29-23, 05:46 PM
#4928
I can't justify buying new but I'm having similar problems, normally I like looking and buying something interesting for a few months just to have owned one. Now the market is too insane.....
I also don't really have the "want" right now at all, the W12 tamed it after I spent 5 years looking for the "next one" and then buying it and repeating the process. I don't really have a desire anymore and what would I even buy? I have like 2 options above what I already have and they aren't quite the same "feel" of car, and again I don't have the pull toward them.
I also don't really have the "want" right now at all, the W12 tamed it after I spent 5 years looking for the "next one" and then buying it and repeating the process. I don't really have a desire anymore and what would I even buy? I have like 2 options above what I already have and they aren't quite the same "feel" of car, and again I don't have the pull toward them.
06-29-23, 06:43 PM
#4930
Lexus Fanatic
As of today, Ted Britt Chantilly Ford/Lincoln currently is listing four new 2023 Aviators in stock. (I know the General Manager of that place..but I haven't seen him for a while). They are literally right across the street from that Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler/Ram shop we used to talk about...where they dump the box of new-vehicle key/fobs on the floor LOL. But Ted Britt is a lot classier place.
https://www.tedbrittlincolnofchantil...&model=Aviator
06-29-23, 07:09 PM
#4932
Lol where does it end? Put me in your W12 and that's more speed than I would ever want.
06-29-23, 07:18 PM
#4933
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
I think a lot of it is artificial lack of supply at this point. Sales figures show that demand is not unusually high, dealers have discovered how to play a game here. People aren’t clamoring to buy Carnival minivans I am sure lol
My dealer here listed 7, and have none. I bet they don’t actually have any.
As of today, Ted Britt Chantilly Ford/Lincoln currently is listing four new 2023 Aviators in stock. (I know the General Manager of that place..but I haven't seen him for a while). They are literally right across the street from that Jeep/Dodge/Chrysler/Ram shop we used to talk about...where they dump the box of new-vehicle key/fobs on the floor LOL. But Ted Britt is a lot classier place.
https://www.tedbrittlincolnofchantil...&model=Aviator
https://www.tedbrittlincolnofchantil...&model=Aviator
06-29-23, 07:30 PM
#4935
Lexus Fanatic
car companies are waiting for a recession. It’s due. The auto giants are not gonna expand their production lines as everything will comes back in line with a recession. It’s a just a terrible time to buy a car because of inflation as there is still too much money floating around. Jack the interest rates to 10%, car sales will slow and prices will drop.