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#5551
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
I much preferred the subtler use of wood.
I also really liked the stock wheels.
I also really liked the stock wheels.
#5552
Lexus Fanatic
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and the world is slowly moving on from slaughtered trees and cows.
#5555
Pole Position
Your 430 looks identical to the one I had, except I had the polished 5 star wheels and yours look to be chrome. Same interior (no nav), everything. I'd still take the 400 over the 430. And that 98-00 400 you snapped a pic of is seemingly the most popular color for those model years. I see gold more than any other color - driving around and whenever I look at ones available for sale. It's my least favorite color, in fact it's the only color I'd never buy.
#5556
Lexus Champion
Your 430 looks identical to the one I had, except I had the polished 5 star wheels and yours look to be chrome. Same interior (no nav), everything. I'd still take the 400 over the 430. And that 98-00 400 you snapped a pic of is seemingly the most popular color for those model years. I see gold more than any other color - driving around and whenever I look at ones available for sale. It's my least favorite color, in fact it's the only color I'd never buy.
#5559
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
#5560
Lexus Champion
Synthetic leather and plastic are sustainable yes, they aren’t derived from living things they are made chemically and can be made over and over and recycled etc. People just don’t want to kill animals and trees, I get it. My wife would much rather have a car with no leather or wood, lots of people like her.
You can always grow more cows and trees
#5561
Lexus Fanatic
I don't think that "growing" more cows is really the issue. All that means is more suffering in the future....animals often (though not always) suffer when they are put to death. Killing them to eat is one thing (I eat poultry and seafood myself, though no beef or pork).....but IMO needless killing, just for the sake of planting one's butt on a vehicle-seat or carrying around a fancy piece of luggage, is quite another matter.
Last edited by mmarshall; 07-18-23 at 05:45 PM.
#5562
Lexus Test Driver
i think they look good but only when very pristine:
unfortunately almost every example is scuffed up and faded now :(
#5564
Lexus Champion
I like the wood trim in the 400s but that strip below the vents looks pretty dumb and contrived, I've always thought so.
LS430 has so much wood it's like a fancy bordello. Reminds me of the Commodore's house in Boardwalk Empire. The more wood and leather you can throw at me the more I'll take.
#5565
Lexus Champion
I don't think that "growing" more cows is really the issue. All that means is more suffering in the future....animals often (though not always) suffer when they are put to death. Killing them to eat is one thing (I eat poultry and seafood myself, though no beef or pork).....but IMO needless killing, just for the sake of planting one's butt on a vehicle-seat or carrying around a fancy piece of luggage, is quite anther matter.