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#6106
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
No question the S Class is better looking outside, but I have never warmed up to the stuck on tablet looks inside and the 223 has some really noticeable quality cutbacks from my 222. That i7 is the wool interior which I wouldnt get.
#6110
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Not getting anything until mine gets close to 50k miles, then I will have to decide if I get a warranty and keep it or get something else. Still not ready to move on from my car. At current there is no faster version, but no I would get this version. More than enough power for anything I would ever need.
Whats interesting is it feels MUCH more like a V8/ICE car than a Tesla. Teslas have a snap all power feel to the throttle and this feels linear and progressive and the power builds through a curve the way a V8/ICE car does. It was really interesting driving it back to back with my S560, it feels way more similar than it does different. Teslas I have driven have an oddness to them that this didn't have at all. I know you have said one of your issues with an EV is that the power delivery is all the same, that is definitely not the case.
Whats interesting is it feels MUCH more like a V8/ICE car than a Tesla. Teslas have a snap all power feel to the throttle and this feels linear and progressive and the power builds through a curve the way a V8/ICE car does. It was really interesting driving it back to back with my S560, it feels way more similar than it does different. Teslas I have driven have an oddness to them that this didn't have at all. I know you have said one of your issues with an EV is that the power delivery is all the same, that is definitely not the case.
#6112
Lexus Champion
Not getting anything until mine gets close to 50k miles, then I will have to decide if I get a warranty and keep it or get something else. Still not ready to move on from my car. At current there is no faster version, but no I would get this version. More than enough power for anything I would ever need.
Whats interesting is it feels MUCH more like a V8/ICE car than a Tesla. Teslas have a snap all power feel to the throttle and this feels linear and progressive and the power builds through a curve the way a V8/ICE car does. It was really interesting driving it back to back with my S560, it feels way more similar than it does different. Teslas I have driven have an oddness to them that this didn't have at all. I know you have said one of your issues with an EV is that the power delivery is all the same, that is definitely not the case.
Whats interesting is it feels MUCH more like a V8/ICE car than a Tesla. Teslas have a snap all power feel to the throttle and this feels linear and progressive and the power builds through a curve the way a V8/ICE car does. It was really interesting driving it back to back with my S560, it feels way more similar than it does different. Teslas I have driven have an oddness to them that this didn't have at all. I know you have said one of your issues with an EV is that the power delivery is all the same, that is definitely not the case.
#6113
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
There is an M version with good performance if you want a dual motor version. Also yes, the other brands have much better calibrations and surpass Tesla on that, suspension, tech, and systems integration. My issue is that only Audi and BMW have done that and when floored it's still identical
#6114
Lead Lap
There's no doubt that the i7 has a better quality interior than the S-class but I vastly prefer the MB design. I agree that the i7 drives wonderfully and its quite efficient. Ugly as hell though I must say and its one of the rare times where the looks haven't grown on me. I can tolerate the iX but this is a step too far for me. Side note: my grandma's i7 cashmere wool interior was in bad shape last time I was down to visit. Thank goodness the detail shop was able to get the litany of stains out. Leather would've been a far better idea.
#6115
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
There's no doubt that the i7 has a better quality interior than the S-class but I vastly prefer the MB design. I agree that the i7 drives wonderfully and its quite efficient. Ugly as hell though I must say and its one of the rare times where the looks haven't grown on me. I can tolerate the iX but this is a step too far for me. Side note: my grandma's i7 cashmere wool interior was in bad shape last time I was down to visit. Thank goodness the detail shop was able to get the litany of stains out. Leather would've been a far better idea.
You prefer the MB interior tablet design? Really?!
Yeah that doesn't surprise me about the cashmere interior, I would want all leather.
#6116
Lexus Fanatic
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#6117
Lexus Test Driver
I get asked a lot to help people move, owning a pickup.
I rarely do it anymore. People usually ask at the worst times. Either it's my busy season, or it's July in Las Vegas(115 outside), or it's somebody that hasn't talked to me in 3 years but suddenly wants to know what's up? Pass.
I rarely do it anymore. People usually ask at the worst times. Either it's my busy season, or it's July in Las Vegas(115 outside), or it's somebody that hasn't talked to me in 3 years but suddenly wants to know what's up? Pass.
#6118
Lexus Champion
I get asked a lot to help people move, owning a pickup.
I rarely do it anymore. People usually ask at the worst times. Either it's my busy season, or it's July in Las Vegas(115 outside), or it's somebody that hasn't talked to me in 3 years but suddenly wants to know what's up? Pass.
I rarely do it anymore. People usually ask at the worst times. Either it's my busy season, or it's July in Las Vegas(115 outside), or it's somebody that hasn't talked to me in 3 years but suddenly wants to know what's up? Pass.
Just drove my next car. BMW i7. Seriously the most incredible riding and driving car I have ever driven. Any concern I have about liking EVs is gone. I have no interest in even driving a V8 760.
Styling has grown on me a lot, still have a year or so before I want to do anything but this would be very hard to beat. The interior of this car just blows the W223 S Class away.
Styling has grown on me a lot, still have a year or so before I want to do anything but this would be very hard to beat. The interior of this car just blows the W223 S Class away.
What I find interesting about this is 7 series the V8 is faster than the EV.
#6119
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
I think thats because of weight (the EV is 1,000 lbs heavier). 0-60 is about the same as my S560, and like I said the power delivery feels very similar, but when you floor it you get that instant torque slam.
Seriously, you should drive one...I think it would make you feel better about EVs.
Seriously, you should drive one...I think it would make you feel better about EVs.
#6120
Lexus Champion
I think thats because of weight (the EV is 1,000 lbs heavier). 0-60 is about the same as my S560, and like I said the power delivery feels very similar, but when you floor it you get that instant torque slam.
Seriously, you should drive one...I think it would make you feel better about EVs.
Seriously, you should drive one...I think it would make you feel better about EVs.