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Old 08-29-23 | 07:12 PM
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I found it!

https://www.facebook.com/reel/3532527987019807
Old 08-29-23 | 07:15 PM
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That's just glorious. Look at the grin on the new owner's face haha.
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There is one that drives around here I have seen a few times
Old 08-29-23 | 07:19 PM
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My car? Or the other one?
i'm saying your car (R129) has probably adapted to your driving style to make the pedal feel more sensitive, and that R230 probably hadn't gotten a chance to yet

it's also been my experience that as a car gets more gears more electronic torque limiting happens in 1st and sometimes even 2nd, so it may just be the way things are lol... ever increasingly strict fuel consumption restrictions also probably factor in

consider yourself lucky your LX still has the 6 speed, i remember when that 8 speed came out in 2017 it was an absolute slug below 30 mph or so, completely ruined the feel of the highlander, sienna, land cruiser, etc...
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I found it!
my left ear really enjoyed that lol
Old 08-29-23 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroock639
i'm saying your car (R129) has probably adapted to your driving style to make the pedal feel more sensitive, and that R230 probably hadn't gotten a chance to yet
My car has the classic Mercedes lonnnng pedal with a kick down switch. It does adapt nicely but what's sad is just when the fun's getting started, you have to back off because you'll get into trouble fast. You really can tell these cars were made for high speed constantly which is part of the allure.

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iit's also been my experience that as a car gets more gears more electronic torque limiting happens in 1st and sometimes even 2nd, so it may just be the way things are lol... ever increasingly strict fuel consumption restrictions also probably factor in.
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consider yourself lucky your LX still has the 6 speed, i remember when that 8 speed came out in 2017 it was an absolute slug below 30 mph or so, completely ruined the feel of the highlander, sienna, land cruiser, etc...
Oh I do, and I've mentioned it on here. The 6 speed is spunky and aggressive even when not in power mode, lets the big V8 rev out nicely. I mentioned on here how on the last leg home I turned the cruise control off and was much more aggressive with the gas.... even at 80MPH the gas pedal and transmission feel great, transmission feels like a willing engine partner eager to jump. It's not a Veyron but it is surprisingly quick on the freeway and downshifts come immediately even at high speeds.

That 8 speed ruined everything for no mileage gain except on paper, of one mpg. It considerably slows the 570 down. Pass.
Old 08-29-23 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123

That 8 speed ruined everything for no mileage gain except on paper, of one mpg. It considerably slows the 570 down. Pass.
it was indeed interesting that Toyota went to an 8 speed in the Land Cruiser and the LX. Just 1MPG gain
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I had a FB Reel of an Escalade V cold starting on a dealer floor I was going to post and I lost the link before I could lol
Hagerty with Jason Cammisa did a SUV drag race recently with the V, Range Rover, G63 and Rolls Royce. Check out his reaction to the V’s exhaust.


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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
it was indeed interesting that Toyota went to an 8 speed in the Land Cruiser and the LX. Just 1MPG gain
They tried to sell it as an upgrade, too, naturally. Zero MPG gain real world because it always goes straight to 8th and would require a heavier foot. Even car mags say that transmission "neuters" the engine.
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What matters is what’s on paper though.
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so lexsctjill and ajt... to recap...

4 cylinder engines suck
6 cylinder engines suck compared to 8 cylinder engines
6 speed (or 5 as in 4runners!) is better than more gears
turbos suck (literally, lol)

what's funny to me is all these heretic ev's are 1 or 2 speed, no turbos, and the best acceleration.
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Hagerty with Jason Cammisa did a SUV drag race recently with the V, Range Rover, G63 and Rolls Royce. Check out his reaction to the V’s exhaust.

https://youtu.be/mGNZ1SZ8sL8?si=gmbZcZsJ7_JP1IoU
Wow! I've always liked him but he's taken his videos up a notch with the effects and stuff, thanks for posting that. I quite enjoyed it and I'm picky with YouTubers. I haven't seen anything of his in a while.
Old 08-30-23 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I can’t believe Cadillac made the V Escalade. It’s typical GM
I have to agree with Jill on this one. Truck-based SUVs weighing some three tons, with a high center of gravity, are not intended to be sports-sedans. They simply have too much bulk, and are prone to rollovers.

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Old 08-30-23 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
so lexsctjill and ajt... to recap...

4 cylinder engines suck
6 cylinder engines suck compared to 8 cylinder engines
6 speed (or 5 as in 4runners!) is better than more gears
turbos suck (literally, lol)

what's funny to me is all these heretic ev's are 1 or 2 speed, no turbos, and the best acceleration.
Well, yeah. 6 gears are ideal. The rest is self explanatory. 4 cylinders aren't pleasant, yes I've rather have a V6. I'd rather have a V8 than a V6, correct there too. Turbos are okay but NA displacement is better IMO.
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I have to say by and large I agree that the 5 and 6 speed transmissions I have had have felt better than the higher speed transmissions. The 9 speed in my S560 is pretty good. The 9 speed in my Pacifica is terrible. Hard to say that I have had any better transmission than the 5 speed in the LS400 and 6 speed in the LS430 and GS350.

I think the tall gearing in the pursuit of fuel economy has diminished the feel of older transmissions.

For me, I don't want a 4 cyl anything either, but they are the way things are so I have no choice but to try and find one that I like if vehicles I want to buy only come in 4cyl. Would I not buy an Atlas over a Telluride for instance if I liked the Atlas better just because it has a turbo 4? If I was okay with how the engine felt?

Having had a TTV8, I can safely say I see no reason to go back to a NA V8, the ones I have driven since becoming used to this just feel lethargic at low RPMs.



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