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Old 09-19-23 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
We waxed the Mercedes this weekend, just using plain ole' Turtle Wax. What do you guys think about Turtle Wax? To me it's tried and true, good stuff. Car looks shinier.




Looks great! Turtle Wax is fine, they actually make some really great products. I haven’t used an actual wax though in a long long time. Just much better and easier stuff to use today
Old 09-19-23 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
of course you'd prefer the old one, and of course i wouldn't.
It's possible to like them both. I do.
Old 09-19-23 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
striker, i have if not the same, very close to the same foam gun (chemical guys) and i also use with similar pressure washer. works great.



i can't see how a regular hose could produce close to the same results but maybe it does because ultimately whether pressure washer or hose it's the same volume of water!

striker, i've never understood blowing off the water... i've tried with a leaf blower and was underwhelmed with the results.
As you said a normal hose doesn't really work, if you want to use something smaller than a gas unit the better electric ones should work?

For the drying you need to have the cars paint correct and sealed with ceramic, if you have any sort of surface imperfections it won't work as well as you would think/still require a manual dry. For example it works on the Audis but not the 460 since the 460 is only waxed not ceramic coated.
Old 09-19-23 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
of course you'd prefer the old one, and of course i wouldn't.
Honestly? I'd rather have the old one too. The new one is stupid expensive for one, its just not worth $170,000. $120,000 sure, but thats why there are $50,000 discounts, its dramatically overpriced. For me a 2 door car like that would always be a fun second car, it wouldn't be a daily driver so all the tech doesn't really bother me for that use, and I love that old generation SL. You know I'm not somebody who prefers old cars either.

The new SL is just not a car I would ever buy, I would get an LC or a 911 or something.
Old 09-19-23 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Honestly? I'd rather have the old one too. The new one is stupid expensive for one, its just not worth $170,000. $120,000 sure, but thats why there are $50,000 discounts, its dramatically overpriced. For me a 2 door car like that would always be a fun second car, it wouldn't be a daily driver so all the tech doesn't really bother me for that use, and I love that old generation SL. You know I'm not somebody who prefers old cars either.

The new SL is just not a car I would ever buy, I would get an LC or a 911 or something.
For me, the fact that it has four seats sucks. Should be a 2 seater. Same with the LC500
Old 09-19-23 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Looks great! Turtle Wax is fine, they actually make some really great products. I haven’t used an actual wax though in a long long time. Just much better and easier stuff to use today
Right. Car sits in garage 99% of its life though, so just a good coat of wax I am satisfied with. Turtle Wax is tried and true (and ooolllllllllld), can't really go wrong.

I could use your/y'alls advice on the best wheel cleaner that takes minimal effort lol.

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Honestly? I'd rather have the old one too. The new one is stupid expensive for one, its just not worth $170,000. $120,000 sure, but thats why there are $50,000 discounts, its dramatically overpriced. For me a 2 door car like that would always be a fun second car, it wouldn't be a daily driver so all the tech doesn't really bother me for that use, and I love that old generation SL. You know I'm not somebody who prefers old cars either.
Obviously I love mine (and R129), but yeah I can't afford one first of all, nor would I pay $170,000 for a new one.... SL lost its magic right after mine IMHO. R129 is one of the most popular cars in history, certainly in pop culture history. For good reason. Who doesn't like an R129 (at least that was alive when R129s were new)?

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The new SL is just not a car I would ever buy, I would get an LC or a 911 or something.
I would go right to Lexus and buy an LC convertible personally without thinking TWICE.

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For me, the fact that it has four seats sucks. Should be a 2 seater. Same with the LC500
Agree. 4 seats USED to be for Insurance purposes or something (they could technically say it seats 4), not sure about now.

I love having just the huge rear parcel right behind me. SL is a car that two people could pack TO DEATH for a trip, that's nice. Or just enjoy the space behind the seats. Everyone who gets in it (when the top is up especially) is surprised how big inside it is. It ain't no dinky thing which I massively like.

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Best way to clean the wheels is to take them off car, hit them with a pressure washer, dry them, hit with iron out, rinse them again, foam them with a manual scrub after 5 min wait, repeat till clean, dry them off, then ceramic coat them.

After that all you will need to do is foam and rinse them off. Alternative is to use a wheel cleaner and a rim brush but that takes longer and costs more long term. Plus you will have to touch the rims
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I would go right to Lexus and buy an LC convertible personally without thinking TWICE.
You would, but the LC has never flown off the lots either. The SL is actually outselling it this year despite its much higher price tag and being convertible only.
Old 09-19-23 | 01:53 PM
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You would, but the LC has never flown off the lots either. The SL is actually outselling it this year despite its much higher price tag and being convertible only.
Has nothing to do with that. LC is Lexus’ R129, over time that will become more apparent. I want another high end convertible but a Lexus. With a 7000RPM screaming V8. Lexus reliability. Those looks. Whew..
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Has nothing to do with that. LC is Lexus’ R129, over time that will become more apparent. I want another high end convertible but a Lexus. With a 7000RPM screaming V8. Lexus reliability. Those looks. Whew..
Like I said, you would. The overall market is clearly not as enthusiastic. I even look at the lack of LC presence in popular culture. The R107 and R129 SL's were everywhere. TV shows, music videos, you name it.

I'm very curious to know what, if any, convertibles will be seen as iconic from this time period. It's my favorite body style but it's definitely approaching a valley in terms of popularity these days.
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
You would, but the LC has never flown off the lots either. The SL is actually outselling it this year despite its much higher price tag and being convertible only.
The SL is selling at MASSIVE discounts which create very attractive lease terms. Believe it or not, an SL is cheaper to lease than an LC. Friend of mine traded his S580 lease in on an SL lease and his payment went down $700 a month despite the car being $30,000 more expensive

The new SL just doesn't feel special to me at all
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The SL is selling at MASSIVE discounts which create very attractive lease terms. Believe it or not, an SL is cheaper to lease than an LC. Friend of mine traded his S580 lease in on an SL lease and his payment went down $700 a month despite the car being $30,000 more expensive

The new SL just doesn't feel special to me at all
I'm well aware, I'm finally taking delivery of one in about a month. The discounts aren't uniform across the models (some of its conquest only, others are a glut of old 2022 production cars) but it's not hard to nab something attractive price wise. It's going to tide me over until discounts inevitably arrive on the Maserati Gran Turismo cab (also overpriced).

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Old 09-19-23 | 03:10 PM
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I'm well aware, I'm finally taking delivery of one in about a month. The discounts aren't uniform across the models (some of its conquest only, others are a glut of old 2022 production cars) but it's not hard to nab something attractive price wise. It's going to tide me over until discounts inevitably arrive on the Maserati Gran Turismo cab (also overpriced).
Congrats! Yeah there are some great deals on them
Old 09-19-23 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
Like I said, you would. The overall market is clearly not as enthusiastic. I even look at the lack of LC presence in popular culture. The R107 and R129 SL's were everywhere. TV shows, music videos, you name it.

I'm very curious to know what, if any, convertibles will be seen as iconic from this time period. It's my favorite body style but it's definitely approaching a valley in terms of popularity these days.
An LC will. It's still absolutely beautiful with the top up. You know designers did a good job with convertibles when they look great either way top up or down.

I don't care what the market is, the less enthusiastic it is the cheaper ours will be when that time comes. So for my own selfish reasons I hope they bottom out, bc one is next on the list.

That said, yearrrrrrs down the road people will be slobbering over them, count on it.
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I have to agree, I think the LC is a car that will stand out in the future



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