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#721
Lexus Fanatic
Originally Posted by SW17LS
So silly the "Michelin great, everything else bad" mentality people have...
#722
Lexus Test Driver
My last pair were Perillis.
This time I put on a pair of Firestone Firehawk on the front for $350 out the door and moved the Perillis to the back.
On my RX330, while driving the speed limit and not drifting and pushing the car hard & driving crazy there is little gain for me with expensive tires.
My car is not exactly a performance or luxury car so I don't think it matters much.
I just go with a name brand tires and they pretty much all feel the same.
New rubber always drives nicer and feels better than old rubber.
This time I put on a pair of Firestone Firehawk on the front for $350 out the door and moved the Perillis to the back.
On my RX330, while driving the speed limit and not drifting and pushing the car hard & driving crazy there is little gain for me with expensive tires.
My car is not exactly a performance or luxury car so I don't think it matters much.
I just go with a name brand tires and they pretty much all feel the same.
New rubber always drives nicer and feels better than old rubber.
Last edited by Margate330; 06-28-22 at 06:23 AM.
#724
So far so good with my tires, I have even left them aired at 35 PSI where I was running the Michelins at 31. I'm going to air them down to 33 tomorrow morning and see what I think...
Was finally able to get the car washed today, it was filthy. Attached are some pictures of the tires dressed. So silly the "Michelin great, everything else bad" mentality people have...
Was finally able to get the car washed today, it was filthy. Attached are some pictures of the tires dressed. So silly the "Michelin great, everything else bad" mentality people have...
#725
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Thats CarPro Perl diluted 1:1, sprayed onto an applicator and applied. Great dressing, only one I have found that has the gloss I like but doesn't sling.
#727
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Because oversteer is more dangerous than understeer.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/car...nked-10031440/
https://www.popularmechanics.com/car...nked-10031440/
The Myth: When replacing only two tires, the new ones go on the front.
The truth: Rear tires provide stability, and without stability, steering or braking on a wet or even damp surface might cause a spin. If you have new tires up front, they will easily disperse water while the half-worn rears will go surfing: The water will literally lift the worn rear tires off the road. If you're in a slight corner or on a crowned road, the car will spin out so fast you won't be able to say, "Oh, fudge!"
There is no "even if" to this one. Whether you own a front-, rear- or all-wheel-drive car, truck, or SUV, the tires with the most tread go on the rear. Don't believe it? Watch this.
The truth: Rear tires provide stability, and without stability, steering or braking on a wet or even damp surface might cause a spin. If you have new tires up front, they will easily disperse water while the half-worn rears will go surfing: The water will literally lift the worn rear tires off the road. If you're in a slight corner or on a crowned road, the car will spin out so fast you won't be able to say, "Oh, fudge!"
There is no "even if" to this one. Whether you own a front-, rear- or all-wheel-drive car, truck, or SUV, the tires with the most tread go on the rear. Don't believe it? Watch this.
#728
Lexus Test Driver
Thank you geko29.
I been doing it wrong for 40 years from what ya'll are saying.
Still learning and still know nothing. haha
I will look into this.
The new tires on the front does feel good and feash tho.
I been doing it wrong for 40 years from what ya'll are saying.
Still learning and still know nothing. haha
Because oversteer is more dangerous than understeer.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/car...nked-10031440/
https://www.popularmechanics.com/car...nked-10031440/
The new tires on the front does feel good and feash tho.
#730
Lexus Fanatic
I think there was a time when Michelin really made tires that had consistently the best quality, but nowadays many tire makers are making tires that are just as good. For instance, I looked when I was cleaning the wheels, they used the same amount of weight to balance these Pirellis as they did the Michelins I had previously.
#731
Lexus Champion
33 PSI seems to be perfect...I took a 100 mile drive this morning, highway and surface road and they really ride great and even at 33 are much sharper than the MXM4s.
Thats CarPro Perl diluted 1:1, sprayed onto an applicator and applied. Great dressing, only one I have found that has the gloss I like but doesn't sling.
I think there was a time when Michelin really made tires that had consistently the best quality, but nowadays many tire makers are making tires that are just as good. For instance, I looked when I was cleaning the wheels, they used the same amount of weight to balance these Pirellis as they did the Michelins I had previously.
As was said above, the new tires should always go on the rear.
Its to help my wife position the cars in the garage properly lol
Thats CarPro Perl diluted 1:1, sprayed onto an applicator and applied. Great dressing, only one I have found that has the gloss I like but doesn't sling.
I think there was a time when Michelin really made tires that had consistently the best quality, but nowadays many tire makers are making tires that are just as good. For instance, I looked when I was cleaning the wheels, they used the same amount of weight to balance these Pirellis as they did the Michelins I had previously.
As was said above, the new tires should always go on the rear.
Its to help my wife position the cars in the garage properly lol
#732
Lexus Champion
The rear is where the car gets it's stability from. If you have the older ones on the rear the car can lose grip out back before the front and flip on you quite easily, this is magnified greatly by cars that are nose heavy and during any sort of traction compromised states or in turns.
It's made even worse if you only replace 2 at a time since you can't rotate them, if you have a car with a heavy weight bias it becomes critical to rotate tires since if you don't it will lock them into where they are. The fronts wear down so much faster on FWD based cars due to the 60/40 weight spread and the fact that ALL functions are carried out by the front.
It's made even worse if you only replace 2 at a time since you can't rotate them, if you have a car with a heavy weight bias it becomes critical to rotate tires since if you don't it will lock them into where they are. The fronts wear down so much faster on FWD based cars due to the 60/40 weight spread and the fact that ALL functions are carried out by the front.
#733
Lexus Champion
It's made even worse if you only replace 2 at a time since you can't rotate them, if you have a car with a heavy weight bias it becomes critical to rotate tires since if you don't it will lock them into where they are. The fronts wear down so much faster on FWD based cars due to the 60/40 weight spread and the fact that ALL functions are carried out by the front.
#734
Lexus Champion
Yeah it gets really old really fast. I am a firm believer in a square setup for any car you are going to put serious miles on, if you want staggered run a spare pair of rims and only use them when you want more rear tire.