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but i gotta say, an additional 6th gear would be nice for mpgs sake considering at 80 mph the engine's doing about 2500 rpm when it could easily be another 500-1000 rpm or so lower with no adverse effects
Lol, that's the one complaint I have about the 6MT in my M3. It turns 3k rpm cruising at 80 in 6th gear. I mean, sure it's nice that I can dash up to 110 in the blink of an eye without downshifting, but it's not really necessary. The 8AT version is definitely the better highway cruiser for that reason.
I can't imagine how powerful your car feels with all that extra power, but mine does even NA. I've never owned a car where I have to let off the gas because it's too much when you hammer it. In normal driving it just usually finds 3rd gear and that's plenty. MB 5.0 noticeably stronger than my Lexus 4.3, feels like considerably more than 12 extra hp and 19 ft/lbs torque.
And oh I think we talked about that, I noticed the exact same thing.... 2500k at 80ish. But that was for a reason. Up past 100 which is what these were designed for it realllllllly wouldn't need to downshift. That said, yeah, at 85 my LX is turning like 1900 lol.
And yeah our transmissions can handle 738lb/ft of torque so we are good!
the way it can roast the tires from a roll on dry roads even with easing onto the power is endlessly entertaining! if the temperature outside is cold enough and the tires are low enough i've even had traction control kick in at 60+ mph in 3rd haha
but it's self regulating because if you do that too much you'll find yourself going HUH?!? i just put gas in here!! hence why this is primarily the weekend car
my best 60-130 mph time is just under 11 seconds btw for some perspective
the way it can roast the tires from a roll on dry roads even with easing onto the power is endlessly entertaining! if the temperature outside is cold enough and the tires are low enough i've even had traction control kick in at 60+ mph in 3rd haha
but it's self regulating because if you do that too much you'll find yourself going HUH?!? i just put gas in here!! hence why this is primarily the weekend car
my best 60-130 mph time is just under 11 seconds btw for some perspective
That's INSANITY. I love how it sounds the same but yours winds out wayyyyyyyy faster lol. And I can hear that buttery shift.
$1,375 dent is all fixed...it was a really complex dent that was flexed all the way up into the window frame, took him over 9 hours to get it right. Like me, he has no idea what could possibly have happened.
Sure but it's just an EV and slower plus way more boring.
don't sugarcoat it then. and your car is the past and mine is the future. deal with it. and while very nice, i would find your w12 audi old and boring compared to my space age ev.
I'll never spend as much on gas in 10 years as that car costs you to own
would love to know how you figure that unless you're assuming i'd need a full battery replacement in that time.
Originally Posted by geko29
Lol, that's the one complaint I have about the 6MT in my M3. It turns 3k rpm cruising at 80 in 6th gear. I mean, sure it's nice that I can dash up to 110 in the blink of an eye without downshifting, but it's not really necessary. The 8AT version is definitely the better highway cruiser for that reason.
that's one thing i like about the LC500. it has 10 gears but in sport or sport+ it only uses the first 8. but if highway cruising in normal or comfort, it uses all 10 and at 80 it's running about about 1800rpm i think.
Lol, that's the one complaint I have about the 6MT in my M3. It turns 3k rpm cruising at 80 in 6th gear. I mean, sure it's nice that I can dash up to 110 in the blink of an eye without downshifting, but it's not really necessary. The 8AT version is definitely the better highway cruiser for that reason.
that has the S58 right? yea that engine is like super torquey... no reason for it to be revving that high in 6th lol
PDR is amazing, and this guy is amazing. Expensive but he deserves it. A little ding I would have it done somewhere much cheaper but that was a bad dent, and right on that body line. Also drove an hour each way...
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
would love to know how you figure that unless you're assuming i'd need a full battery replacement in that time.
I bet your entire payment is pretty darn close to what I spend just in fuel every month, so yeah don't see how that makes sense.
Yeah it makes ~300lbft at 3,000, and peaks at 4,200. Cruising at 80 requires like....12lbft.
wow ok that's a more spikey powerband than i would've thought... so it really is pretty reworked compared to the standard B58 (that's like full torque at 2000 rpm or something)
even still the 6th to 5th shift is an easy one to make, and to me at least there's more pros than cons by having taller gearing with that engine
it's kind of impressive how little supercharger whine you can hear inside though... with the windows down you can hear it kick in at lower speeds but if you fit an aftermarket intake it sounds like the SLR mclaren haha
wow ok that's a more spikey powerband than i would've thought... so it really is pretty reworked compared to the standard B58 (that's like full torque at 2000 rpm or something)
even still the 6th to 5th shift is an easy one to make, and to me at least there's more pros than cons by having taller gearing with that engine
Yeah, crazy low compression ratio, which means way more torque comes from the turbos than the engine on its own. 9.3:1 vs. 11:1 in the B58. The S55 was 10.2:1. So the "NA" B58 actually makes significantly more base torque before the turbos come into play. On the flipside, means it can take way more boost, as evidenced by the 19psi stock level (25psi for competition, 30.5 for CS/CSL), and easily holding 40+ with a tune and supporting mods. Stock B58 is at around 8-11psi, and tops out at around 25psi with a ton of mods.
Originally Posted by Stroock639
it's kind of impressive how little supercharger whine you can hear inside though... with the windows down you can hear it kick in at lower speeds but if you fit an aftermarket intake it sounds like the SLR mclaren haha
I would have to do that. Induction noise on SC motors is just incredible. It's nice with turbos (and I'll probably add an intake to capitalize on that), but the whine of a supercharger is something special.
don't sugarcoat it then. and your car is the past and mine is the future. deal with it. and while very nice, i would find your w12 audi old and boring compared to my space age ev.
don't sugarcoat it then. and your car is the past and mine is the future. deal with it. and while very nice, i would find your w12 audi old and boring compared to my space age ev.
would love to know how you figure that unless you're assuming i'd need a full battery replacement in that time.
that's one thing i like about the LC500. it has 10 gears but in sport or sport+ it only uses the first 8. but if highway cruising in normal or comfort, it uses all 10 and at 80 it's running about about 1800rpm i think.
Your EV doesn't have half the features of my car lol! Why would I downgrade to something like that? It's cheaply made as well as nowhere near the same dynamic ability or adaptive systems.
You don't even have air suspension. It's just a commodity car with a golf cart power unit.
I'll get an EV when Bentley makes one with a proper interior and list of features. I'm not stepping down to common cars
As to the argument of cost how much was that EV of yours again? Total cost of ownership will be lower for me, period.
10-25-23 | 03:24 PM
The 8AT version is definitely the better highway cruiser for that reason.
