General Car Conversation
12-02-23, 12:34 PM
#8416
Lexus Champion
Best way to put it is where is Lexus's RS3? C63? M2? If they don't want to play at being a fake high brand they need to offer "stupid" versions of all their cars. They BARELY made the ISF/GSF/RCF and those lose to upper mid level Germans.....
Lexus never made even ONE performance SUV. There is no brand draw and once you taste the alternative reliability doesn't sway you anymore. Once upon a time I was fervently anti-German, then I got skilled enough it didn't matter anymore. The end product is so superior in performance it's worth me spending extra time/care but I honestly do that regardless so why not have the better car? If spending money on a new car why not buy the better car? Who cares about reliability if you have a warranty?
Last edited by Striker223; 12-02-23 at 12:38 PM.
12-02-23, 12:55 PM
#8417
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
So yeah I would take a car thats not quite there for the trouble free experience, but not a car that is dramatically lesser.
12-02-23, 03:14 PM
#8418
Lexus Champion
I swear to god my Lexus is trying my patience....I've had pneumonia for two weeks and my wife just called me that a tire blew on her car. This thing is just TRYING to prove its rep wrong that then brand is reliable, every freaking Lexus I've had have had everything go wrong lol!
Last edited by Striker223; 12-02-23 at 03:18 PM.
12-02-23, 04:24 PM
#8421
Lexus Fanatic
Did she hit one of those notorious potholes in the Ohio Snow Belt?...or don't you know? They can do a number on lower-profile tires and big wheels.
12-02-23, 04:59 PM
#8422
Right now Ohio roads are in the best shape that they are in all year as road repair work has basically been completed for the year. Now that it is colder we will get into freeze/thaw cycles and the pot holes will begin sprouting again.
12-02-23, 05:24 PM
#8423
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
At least she didn’t have two flat tires like I did lol
12-02-23, 05:28 PM
#8424
Lexus Champion
Yeah lol! I'm actually trying to figure out how she didn't.....the sidewall got cut by something on the inside. It should have killed both? I'm really pissed though since the tires only had 17k on them, now it needs another set.
12-02-23, 06:15 PM
#8425
Lexus Fanatic
Thread Starter
Interesting…on the inside…how did she manage that?!
12-02-23, 06:59 PM
#8426
Lexus Champion
I have zero idea! It's the first time I've seen a failure like this, I'll post pictures tomorrow.....
I'm just happy it happened 1.3 miles from the house, didn't have to get the trailer or call roadside. I do admit I want to test/use it though since the tires did come with that as a perk
I'm just happy it happened 1.3 miles from the house, didn't have to get the trailer or call roadside. I do admit I want to test/use it though since the tires did come with that as a perk
12-02-23, 07:32 PM
#8427
Lexus Champion
True but an LS was always a valid answer to the question of a full grade luxury car....now it's not. Before the Germans only offered one engine "above" the Lexus choice if you exclude the 12 cyl cars. Now there are two full levels above (V8, AMG/S/M) and even then the base versions kick the LS around like a bad joke
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LS is gone soon. I figured that 5 years ago. It's just that terrible, and sedans are dead. I don't want LS to die but it's not long for this world.
I think Jill may be right and they may take the LS and perhaps turn it into a proper crossover.... maybe? One that would truly compete with a GLS, etc. We know they can do it.
In any case, LS sedan is about to be dead. Glad I have my 430 isolation chamber proper V8 Lexus forever.
12-02-23, 07:39 PM
#8428
Lexus Fanatic
This is very accurate.
LS is gone soon. I figured that 5 years ago. It's just that terrible, and sedans are dead. I don't want LS to die but it's not long for this world.
I think Jill may be right and they may take the LS and perhaps turn it into a proper crossover.... maybe? One that would truly compete with a GLS, etc. We know they can do it.
In any case, LS sedan is about to be dead. Glad I have my 430 isolation chamber proper V8 Lexus forever.
LS is gone soon. I figured that 5 years ago. It's just that terrible, and sedans are dead. I don't want LS to die but it's not long for this world.
I think Jill may be right and they may take the LS and perhaps turn it into a proper crossover.... maybe? One that would truly compete with a GLS, etc. We know they can do it.
In any case, LS sedan is about to be dead. Glad I have my 430 isolation chamber proper V8 Lexus forever.
Thats just not true. They used to have a very competitive, even class leading flagship car, midsized luxury car and luxury coupe. The midsized car is gone, the flagship car was totally botched and it will be gone, the coupe is still great. Lexus no longer pushes the envelope at all, they are also rans in basically every comparison they are put to, and they no longer are compared to the Germans where they used to always be.
12-02-23, 07:43 PM
#8429
Lexus Champion
It's just crazy how bad it is, my buddy and I were gawking at a late 460 that had some pretty sweet aftermarket rims and commented on how good that looked and how much we hate the new one. His GF had one and it's trash.
The new LS I could not care less about it, there is virtually nothing I like about it. As an LS owner and die-hard.
The new LS I could not care less about it, there is virtually nothing I like about it. As an LS owner and die-hard.
12-02-23, 07:52 PM
#8430
Lexus Fanatic
It's just crazy how bad it is, my buddy and I were gawking at a late 460 that had some pretty sweet aftermarket rims and commented on how good that looked and how much we hate the new one. His GF had one and it's trash.
The new LS I could not care less about it, there is virtually nothing I like about it. As an LS owner and die-hard.
The new LS I could not care less about it, there is virtually nothing I like about it. As an LS owner and die-hard.
Glad I have my 430 isolation chambe
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 12-02-23 at 07:58 PM.