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Old 12-04-23, 06:49 AM
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No spooly boi may be the reason they are still so reliable.
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Old 12-04-23, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by KennyFSU
boi .
What is boi?
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Old 12-04-23, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by KennyFSU
No spooly boi may be the reason they are still so reliable.
Debatable.......the brake actuator on a 460 costs more to repair/replace than the turbos on a 4.0 engine. The cost to keep my 4 cars fixed so far has firmly been in favor of the Germans since they have easier to find and cheaper parts with faster install.
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Old 12-04-23, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
What is boi?
body on intercooler... it's used to indicate forced induction

ex: "after the modifications to the intake, the supra really became one whistly boi"
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Old 12-04-23, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
The 460 also outsold Mercedes S Class too.
For three years, and that third year they were separated by less than 200 units.
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Old 12-04-23, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
The error to not include a twelve cylinder in their LS is looked back upon in hindsight. They should have had one. Even more sad is that Lexus will go down as a brand that never ever offered a gas V8 turbo unlike MB,Audi and BMW who were clearly class above.
I don't think that was an error at all, Lexus never needed a V12. Thats such a small niche market...

Glad you see that now.
I never said they were a true peer, but they competed more competently than they do today.

Lexus is a little closer than they were in the past. Lexus now offers performance products like the F car (although they are not very competitive) but they still lack modern power trains offerings and instead they are using an engine that they have recycled from the 2007.
Closer to the Germans now?!? No way. They don't have anything that competes over $70,000.

The 460 also outsold Mercedes S Class too.
Only at the beginning.

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No spooly boi may be the reason they are still so reliable.
Toyota can make reliable turbo engines.
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Old 12-04-23, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Toyota can make reliable turbo engines.
I mean, if BMW can do it and Toyota can't, we're definitely in upside-down land.
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Old 12-04-23, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
I mean, if BMW can do it and Toyota can't, we're definitely in upside-down land.
we've absolutely already been in upside down land when toyota, former makers of commercials like this:



had to go to BMW to make a fun car for them
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Old 12-04-23, 11:20 AM
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I honestly thought for the longest time that those cars were ALL riced out, then I learned they were like that from factory!
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Old 12-04-23, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by geko29
I mean, if BMW can do it and Toyota can't, we're definitely in upside-down land.
Exactly!....
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Originally Posted by BrettJacks
Yep. Though some days I wish we did have inspections, because you have a lot of Altima driver types who run around with no bumpers and body parts dragging on the ground. What a classless bunch.

I do enjoy not paying state income taxes, and our property taxes are pretty low as well. I pay about $1600/yr in property taxes. DMV tax was about $200 for the truck and $500 for the BMW this year.
I never ever want inspections. Though you’re not wrong about the junkers. Police here do pull over vehicles like crazy that are posing a threat like that, so that’s good.

Our property taxes are $1300 a year lmao, our house is almost comically undervalued by the county, I pay $100 per car per year for my specialty tags at $30 bucks more, it’s normally $70. The boat is $35 a year for tags.

New stuff has come out, TN has gone from 47th to 50th for total tax burden. Couldn’t be happier.

Though I won’t tint a car that dark ever again, because I want ZERO probable cause to ever be pulled over. Speaking of, if anyone has a frame that covers what county you are, that’s PC just fwiw. Really stupid that dealers sell cars with their logos on them that cover it.
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Old 12-04-23, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS

I never said they were a true peer, but they competed more competently than they do today.



Closer to the Germans now?!? No way. They don't have anything that competes over $70,000.
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you have such a grievance against Lexus and more so Toyota. Just enjoy your Mercedes
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I’ll get into it later but from 1990-2006ish Lexus absolutely positively was tier 1. LS wiped the floor with everyone for way cheaper through 2006 for starters. SC400 came out and all the mags said it was a better car than the 8 series at literally half the price. LX had the nicest interior you could get in its class early 2000s with the 100. It was underpowered, but many trucks were then so not a huge deal like today. GS400 blew everyone away. RX invented the crossover…

I’ve said this before but IMHO Lexus still has the cred, even if it’s from the past that they’re resting on.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
I’ll get into it later but from 1990-2006ish Lexus absolutely positively was tier 1. LS wiped the floor with everyone for way cheaper through 2006 for starters. SC400 came out and all the mags said it was a better car than the 8 series at literally half the price. LX had the nicest interior you could get in its class early 2000s with the 100. It was underpowered, but many trucks were then so not a huge deal like today. GS400 blew everyone away. RX invented the crossover…

I’ve said this before but IMHO Lexus still has the cred, even if it’s from the past that they’re resting on.
No they were always one step below, AMG, RS, M and the 12 cyl cars all exist and Lexus has NEVER had an answer for them.

In 2005 you could have bought an LS, or an S600, SL600, CL600, S55, S65, CL55, CL65, SL55, SL65, 760Li, Alpina B7, S6 V10, A8 W12 and in 2007 the S8 V10.......in what world does the LS even enter the conversation vs those? Mercedes alone clearly proves just how unserious Lexus was since they shoved every engine possible into EVERYTHING they made, to this day Lexus has never come close and never will since they just keep moving themselves lower downmarket by both sales volume and the types of cars they sell. The LC500 should be the NORM not the exception for a luxury brand.
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Old 12-04-23, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
you have such a grievance against Lexus and more so Toyota. Just enjoy your Mercedes
I don't have a grievance against Lexus, I just call it like I see it. I'd like to own a Lexus again I just need them to offer the kind of vehicles I want, and as a Lexus fan I would like to see them compete at a high level.
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