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Old 08-06-22, 01:16 PM
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He still looks quite happy!
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Old 08-06-22, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
The weight is obscene should have never been a production vehicle weighing in at 9000 pounds. The MPGe rating is 47!!!! Epic fail.

At 9000 lbs. empty, it will be interesting to see if this vehicle is subject or not to the road-use tax that some trucks are charged. Heavy vehicles are charged this fee because they put more stress on the roads and add to their deterioration.
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Old 08-07-22, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
At 9000 lbs. empty, it will be interesting to see if this vehicle is subject or not to the road-use tax that some trucks are charged. Heavy vehicles are charged this fee because they put more stress on the roads and add to their deterioration.
Excess weight as I'm sure you know is generally frowned upon, unless it's an EV, 10k lbs is fine for this hummer to weigh apparently.
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Old 08-07-22, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Excess weight as I'm sure you know is generally frowned upon, unless it's an EV, 10k lbs is fine for this hummer to weigh apparently.
No actually it's not. The weight of this EV is definitely frowned upon by the EV community, and we almost cry when talking about it's efficiency, which is pretty much a joke
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Old 08-08-22, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
No actually it's not. The weight of this EV is definitely frowned upon by the EV community, and we almost cry when talking about it's efficiency, which is pretty much a joke
I'm talking about the masses, the magazines, the biased people etc. Not specific people like you.

FWIW a Plaid weighs 5300lbs which is high too but not to the Hummer's level.
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Old 08-08-22, 06:36 AM
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Again, EVs...lets not.
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Old 08-08-22, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Excess weight hummer to weigh.
I saw a H1 Hummer on the hwy on Saturday. I thought it was Arnold…lol. I think they use the Duramax diesel. The original Hummer doesn’t look as high in height compared to what I recall. It was from Colorado….that is a long drive.
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Old 08-08-22, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
I saw a H1 Hummer on the hwy on Saturday. I thought it was Arnold…lol. I think they use the Duramax diesel. The original Hummer doesn’t look as high in height compared to what I recall. It was from Colorado….that is a long drive.
They originally had the 6.2/6.5 Detroit Diesel engines, a interesting but strange engine family that is IDI and can run off nearly anything due to the obscenely high compression ratio and turbo. Fully mechanical as well, literally some of the strongest power plants ever in a lot of ways but horrible for power.

Even more interesting is that they are fully interchangeable with the normal gas V8 engines of the era and if you have any pre-2000 GM truck it will bolt right up to the same mounts and everything. It would even work in any cars that had V8s if you wanted to.

They are magic if you know them well and a true endless use type device.

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Old 08-08-22, 05:14 PM
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Yeah they are actually fairly low, and VERY wide.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Yeah they are actually fairly low, and VERY wide.
‘Must be a military thing. Also IFS front and IRS rear.


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They originally had the 6.2/6.5 Detroit Diesel engines, a interesting but strange engine family that is IDI and can run off nearly anything due to the obscenely high compression ratio and turbo. Fully mechanical as well, literally some of the strongest power plants ever in a lot of ways but horrible for power.

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US military spec. USA has the best tech for military….so not surprised
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They may have indestructible engines and I'm not disputing that, but they were slower than hell. I'm talking bad.

What is IDI? How does a high compression make an engine indestructible that can run on junk fuel?
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Old 08-08-22, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
They may have indestructible engines and I'm not disputing that, but they were slower than hell. I'm talking bad.
But very fast for a military vehicle
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Old 08-08-22, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
They may have indestructible engines and I'm not disputing that, but they were slower than hell. I'm talking bad.

What is IDI? How does a high compression make an engine indestructible that can run on junk fuel?
Compression is so insane it can light off literal used motor oil as fuel, IDI stands for indirect injection. There is a small "pre chamber" that fuel is injected into not the actual cylinder that allows a crazy wide range of fuels to be used and burn relatively well. Combine that with all iron construction, mechanical fuel timing and pump, zero electronics, and general disregard for otherwise engine killing levels of abuse and you get the 6.2/6.5....oh and like 130hp. Maybe 150 if it likes you lol!
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Old 08-10-22, 09:28 AM
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This is insane, $110k for a '21. I can say with pretty decent amount of certainty after being an owner for a pretty long time now, and active on all things LC/LX related that a lot of this is just for the 5.7L V8 under the hood.

https://www.duncanfamilyauto.com/Veh...y3oQR8MtBzOruA
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Old 08-10-22, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
This is insane, $110k for a '21. I can say with pretty decent amount of certainty after being an owner for a pretty long time now, and active on all things LC/LX related that a lot of this is just for the 5.7L V8 under the hood.

https://www.duncanfamilyauto.com/Veh...y3oQR8MtBzOruA
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