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Nowhere near gas prices. As an example, I spend roughly $60 or less a month powering two EV'S. If I was driving my IS350 or Sienna it would cost about $100 a week, or $400 a month in gas. A one way trip from NorCal to SoCal (390 miles) in my Polestar costs $49 one way, while a gas fill-up in my other cars mentioned is about $120 one way
...New boat will cost $200 every fillup (30 gallons) and I'll probably use at tank a weekend at least.
The marinas like to charge a premium for tanking up at the dock.
Some are better than others but many will punch the customer in the wallet for the convenience.
Gas is expensive, but diesel is even more expensive, damn near $7 per gallon around me. On top of that, modern diesel trucks and cars require DEF fluid, which is relatively inexpensive, but now they are saying Russia and China, who are the major suppliers of DEF, are stopping its exports so there is going to be a shortage of DEF and prices are going to skyrocket.
$7.19 @ the nearest Chevron today. Paid a little over $18 for 2.559 gallons of 89 in my motorcycle!
I agree that's absurd, but CA has always had expensive gas, because CARB (California Air Resources Board) requires special blends for the state (and a few other states that follow suit) that are different from what is blended for most of the rest of the country, which can be refined and marketed in larger amounts. So, in short, most of it is simply cost-effectiveness in a limited market, although in CA itself, an additional factor is the high taxes in the state.
(I'm not sure if my answer is politics or economics.....moderators can decide)
I agree that's absurd, but CA has always had expensive gas, because CARB (California Air Resources Board) requires special blends for the state (and a few other states that follow suit) that are different from what is blended for most of the rest of the country, which can be refined and marketed in larger amounts. So, in short, most of it is simply cost-effectiveness in a limited market, although in CA itself, an additional factor is the high taxes in the state.
(I'm not sure if my answer is politics or economics.....moderators can decide)
The good news is due to California having a $300 billion surplus, we will be getting back $400 per eligible car to compensate for higher gas prices. I currently have 3 eligible cars, although two of them are hardly driven
I agree that's absurd, but CA has always had expensive gas, because CARB (California Air Resources Board) requires special blends for the state (and a few other states that follow suit) that are different from what is blended for most of the rest of the country, which can be refined and marketed in larger amounts. So, in short, most of it is simply cost-effectiveness in a limited market, although in CA itself, an additional factor is the high taxes in the state.
(I'm not sure if my answer is politics or economics.....moderators can decide)
This is only a little accurate. The EPA has over 200 different fuel blends nationally based on locality, so it's not just CARB, and California has different mixes for different metro areas with seasonal changes to the oxygenate levels. All of these things impact price at the pump. Imagine the headache the refiners have in building out the additive packages (base gasoline is the same nationally) for each of the EPA requirements, and it's easy to see why some markets are much more expensive than others.
This is only a little accurate. The EPA has over 200 different fuel blends nationally based on locality, so it's not just CARB, and California has different mixes for different metro areas with seasonal changes to the oxygenate levels. All of these things impact price at the pump. Imagine the headache the refiners have in building out the additive packages (base gasoline is the same nationally) for each of the EPA requirements, and it's easy to see why some markets are much more expensive than others.
I'm thinking the refiners love it. Yeah it's a bit of headache, but it's also profitable for them to "shutdown" production when changing from summer to winter blends, and vise versa
06-18-22 | 04:28 PM
