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Old 06-20-22, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
Uhmm... I think not. If that were the case, they would have been dead by now. Lol
You'd be surprised. Out of the 118K Cadillacs sold last year, 41K of those were Escalades- a third of their entire US sales. The fat profit margins on that thing are the sole reason Cadillac hasn't become another Buick.
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Here's my rank for them.

1: LX600 due to size, reliability, and practical for my current needs
2: Escalade
3: Navigator
4: Grand Wagoneer

The Navigator and Grand Wagoner would be at the bottom of my list but a close tie, but that's just me.

How would ya'll rank them?
I wouldn’t rank them until I have driven all of them. I haven’t driven the new LX or the Grand Wagoneer. The Escalade blows the Navigator away though.
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The point spread also shows how far back of the body on frame pack the LX600 is. I am curious how it would have fared against the X7 and GLS-Class, of course those are both unibody, but are also priced along side the LX and have 3 rows and could be more "traditional" luxury brands vs the American trio it was pitted against. I fear the LX would've been even further back of those in anything other than off-road prowess. Also interested to see how the LX would stack up against the brand new Range Rover, which is of course able to push price up quite a bit above where the LX is at.
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Here's my rank for them.

1: LX600 due to size, reliability, and practical for my current needs
2: Escalade
3: Navigator
4: Grand Wagoneer

The Navigator and Grand Wagoner would be at the bottom of my list but a close tie, but that's just me.[size=33px]
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is that based on your perception of reliability?
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Originally Posted by TangoRed
You didn’t read the intro- they were using NFT to mean “Nice F’ing Truck”
Right. Yes I glossed over that to get to an actual comparison between them. Even so, details are a bit all over the place.

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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

bored writer.
I think the author is trying to be funny like top gear. But car and driver is not that type of publication.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna

is that based on your perception of reliability?
Just a guess of what I think I would like best.
And yes a prediction of reliability mixed with my preferences I guess.
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Not surprised. However, LX is still the choice for long term reliability, resale value, and off road ability. We'll see how this new engine holds up over time. So far I'm impressed with the engine, it's faster and 17MPG is a lot better than the LX570. Still I'd want the V8 though, me personally.

They even mentioned the deleted tailgate, you really know it sucks. We were just using that the other day at the park, sitting on it enjoying the day in the shade under the tree. I always sit on it when getting gas.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Not surprised. However, LX is still the choice for long term reliability, resale value, and off road ability. We'll see how this new engine holds up over time. So far I'm impressed with the engine, it's faster and 17MPG is a lot better than the LX570. Still I'd want the V8 though, me personally.

They even mentioned the deleted tailgate, you really know it sucks. We were just using that the other day at the park, sitting on it enjoying the day in the shade under the tree. I always sit on it when getting gas.
https://www.prospeedautosports.com/p...percharger-kit

You know you want it........you will never think of the V6 again. 480 WHP....stock is 300ish
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Originally Posted by Striker223
https://www.prospeedautosports.com/p...percharger-kit

You know you want it........you will never think of the V6 again. 480 WHP....stock is 300ish
LOL I don’t think about the V6 now, I have what I want.

A supercharger would be amazing but frankly stock the 5.7 is plenty for me.

Just kinda sad to think of the insane V8 this 300 would have if Toyota didn’t cancel V8 development.
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Here's my rank for them.

1: LX600 due to size, reliability, and practical for my current needs
2: Escalade
3: Navigator
4: Grand Wagoneer
The Navigator and Grand Wagoner would be at the bottom of my list but a close tie, but that's just me.
How would ya'll rank them?
How would I rank?
1. Escalade
2. The rest.
I thought I would have liked the LX when I first saw it on line. Seeing it in person and test driving it killed all the excitement. We all have different things to look for and if reliability is the main factor, LX may be the choice. But this is first year model so we can't really tell if it would give any issue and I think with a 91-100 score, it's safe to say Escalade is reliable. Apparently look is subjective too because people do buy them.

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Seeing that most of the people who get these will drive them 3-5 years or less and trade them, reliability isn't a big factor for the consumer base. If you want a truly incredible vehicle with lots of incredible features (magnetotheorlogical dampers, etc) the risk of costly repairs comes with that territory.

@AJT123 though, would you say your GM SUV has been reliable? The Escalade is just a fancy version of that. Has a tried and true V8 that should be more long term reliable than the turbo 6 in the LX...

I see LOTS of old Escalades on the road, they have to be at least mostly reliable...
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I really bought into the "GM trucks will last forever" mindset because there were so many GMT800s around when I bought my GMT900 Yukon Denali. Hell I still see them around all the time. My Yukon really started to fall apart after 110k miles though which was shocking. Makes me wonder how durable the current gen would be over the long term.
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what you didn't like with the LX? I went to test drive but I can't find one locally.
Originally Posted by 1111GS
How would I rank?
1. Escalade
2. The rest.
I thought I would have liked the LX when I first saw it on line. Seeing it in person and test driving it killed all the excitement. We all have different things to look for and if reliability is the main factor, LX may be the choice. But this is first year model so we can't really tell if it would give any issue and I think with a 91-100 score, it's safe to say Escalade is reliable. Apparently look is subjective too because people do buy them.
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The back of it is just so blah...
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