Toys4RJill

The lesson here IMO is that the buyer didn’t get the vehicle he wanted. Had to settle for a Tesla when they wanted a Hyundai or Toyota. Nothing really to do with dealers IMO as someone didn’t want to pay up $$$. Haven’t read many of the comments but my guess is that the buyer is waiting for the Tesla

AMIRZA786

That's your narrative. From his perspective he actually got the best car out of the three. Like a lot of people he was reluctant to buy a Tesla, but after driving his sister's he's 100 percent going to be a long term Tesla buyer. So respectfully, that's your opinion

Toys4RJill

yes. That’s why I said IMO.

But he didn’t get what he originally wanted. That is not my opinion.

AMIRZA786

​​​​​​ He actually wanted the Tesla, but was reluctant, like a lot of people because he never owned one. My brother in law, like me doesn't buy anything he doesn't want. I can say that with 100 percent confidence and it's not opinion

AMIRZA786

I know this thread has pretty much reached its useful life, but in an attempt to re-steer it back to topic, I'll just make one last post (I'll continue to respond though). Going back to post #84, let me expand a little on this. My brother in law is a mid 6 figure earner, and if you include all his investments, his net worth is pretty decent. So paying an additional $6K ADM for an Ioniq 5 or $10K ADM over MSRP for a Sienna is just noise to him. In other words, it really didn't factor into his decision because that's not very much money to him. Since he keeps his cars till they literally die (2010 Honda Odyssey with 220K and 2016 Toyota Avalon Hybrid with 150K), what's an additional $10K over 12 to 15 years for someone at his income level?

He's been mentioning that he's been wanting to buy a Tesla, either Model S or Model 3 for the last 2 years, but like many people, was reluctant. I'm not going to bash dealerships anymore, I think everyone already knows my stands on them, his decision to buy a Tesla instead of the Ioniq or the Sienna had very little to do with the ADM and more with that he's been wanting to buy a Tesla but needed a push. It was me that actually pointed out to him how I felt about dealerships, and he just used that as an excuse. Yes it's true that we did waste 2 months calling and negotiating with several dealerships, but in the end if he really wanted the Ionq or the Sienna, he would have paid the ADM without a complaint. This is based on knowing my brother in law and being close with him for the last 25 years

Toys4RJill

Regardless of income or net worth. I commend your brother in law for not paying the ADM on either cars. It’s not a wise idea.

AMIRZA786

I agree. I wouldn't regardless of income or want. In fact I'm completely staying out buying any auto, regardless of make or brand until things settle down

Striker223

Give it about 7 months or so, maybe sooner but I'm not sure. Should be able to get like 10k off a 50k car then

jwong77

I applaud your brother in law. Scumbags deserve to be treated as such.

AMIRZA786

Let's hope so! I won't be in the car market for at least 14 months. I just pray that I have no accidents or an event that requires a car replacement. My brother in law on the other hand is buying out of necessity... his Oddessy doesn't have much more left in it and is becoming a money pit

bitkahuna

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so if the adm was irrelevant, and he'd been interested in getting a tesla anyway, then whatever he bought in the end would not have been surprising.

but following up on your first sentence there (and because of the huge off topic discussion on stock markets, investing, i agree... thread closed.