bitkahuna

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see the part i said 'yes' to right below. for tesla it's all about cost and minimalism regardless of usability or even safety.

SW17LS

i don't think its about cost as much as its about Elon's desire for total minimalism...which is what I said, change for the sake of change's sake not because a new design is superior.

Toys4RJill

It is 100% about cost cutting. But…minimalism is a secondary benefit (style)

SW17LS

With Elon I don't think cost is the primary motivator

Toys4RJill

He is no angel and nothing special. It’s about money. Look at the original S and the new S. Lots of stuff were cut out for the refresh. Nothing wrong with that as every manufacturer does it. And if he didn’t cut out costs, he would be an idiot. Just look at something like height adjustable seat belts and the door courtesy lighting. Or the colour palettes that use a more simplified combination of colours.

SW17LS

I don't think he's an angel at all, I think he's one of the world's biggest narcissists...

JeffKeryk

Have you tried “my butt is too hot?” Yes
What about the passenger’s butt is hot and yours is fine? Yes

Can the passenger use the vc without affecting your butt?! Yes, but only if driver presses VC button.

There are other pretty risque, even vulgar commands, but I do not consider them appropriate to repeat. Elon has a whack sense of humor. One has to do with the fan blowing air...

JeffKeryk

[QUOTE=bitkahuna;11366089
glad you like your tesla. i will NEVER own one with the ux the way it is right now. i don't want a giant screen ONLY, that is in the center.
why do you believe they didn't get rid of the gauge screen on the S/X? [/QUOTE]

I would prefer a Lexus-type HUD over another screen. I prefer the minimalist design; I may be in the minority.
These cars are different, for sure.

Toys4RJill

on the screen. Is turning on or off the heated seats a one step process or a two process?

JeffKeryk

There is a seat icon on the bottom of the screen; you tap it to set level. See the pic below. The menu is configurable, of course.
For the most control, you go to the climate screen, but I just use voice commands. I don't mess with the screen while driving.
You can also do it on your cell phone app.

Toys4RJill

VC is a two step process? 1..you have to hit the button…2…you have to ask the car to proceed with the task. Am I right?

JeffKeryk

Yes.
1 - Press right steering wheel button to enable VC.
2 - Issue command.

Here's
Note: I owed you a better answer to your seat heat control, so i edited my response.

Toys4RJill

Thanks


This has to be the worst set up in the history of automobiles


LS500 and LC500

JeffKeryk

What's kinda funny to me, and this is just my opinion, is, Lexus is a Japanese company, yet an American company, Tesla, employs the classic Japanese minimalist design... Less is more.
Again, just my opinion.

1111GS

Did it make your butt less or more hot?
So basically the passenger is out of luck her/himself. And s/he would have to press a button. Will the VC control both seats? I hope it leaves your seat alone.

VC is always two step process. You either press a button or call it to wake it up. In some "less advanced" cars you actually don't have to press a button to activate it. It also allows you to record your own phrase so it will recognize its owner. It also knows if it's coming from the passenger and the passenger does not have to press a button. But please don't get me wrong. I'm not arguing for VC.