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Old 09-13-22 | 04:59 PM
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MARANELLO, Italy — Surrendering your cellphone is hard enough under any circumstance, let alone when you’re about to lay eyes on Ferrari’s long-awaited, first-ever SUV — which, incidentally, Ferrari absolutely refuses to call an SUV. Welcome to the world of so-called black box previews, where a journalist’s impressions are limited by his or her firsthand powers of observation.

In the curious case of the Ferrari Purosangue, we’re looking back at 75 years of both flirting with, and resisting, possibilities that would eventually become the brand’s first-ever four-door, four-seat car. Though the prancing horse has long been associated with relentlessly focused race cars, supercars and hypercars, Ferrari has also straddled the line with a smaller selection of more GT-like 2+2s. Enzo himself enjoyed driving a four-seater of his creation, and in fact considered a four-door concept by Pininfarina in the 1980s before it was eventually shelved.

Enter modern day, and the Purosangue before us marks a major turning point for the Maranello brand. Liberated from its red satin cover, the new model looks like nothing before it, despite the vaguely 296 GTB-ish front end and somewhat Roma-like taillamps. It’s a handsomely styled car that Ferrari brass say was designed with a keen eye toward the wind tunnel, though the company does not release aerodynamic drag figures for their GT models. Regardless, Purosangue comes across as more subtle and distinctive than the spy shots might have led you to believe, with flowing lines combined with novel features like an aerobridge on the hood similar to that of the F12Berlinetta. In this case, however, the feature is designed to reduce drag, not create downforce. Some could argue that it resembles the layout of the Ford Mustang Mach-E GT, with its long, arching roofline, large wheel wells, cinched rocker panels and tapered rear deck. But there’s much more going on here design-wise, from the delicately tapered nose to the clever “floating” wheel arches to the complex curves of the rear haunches. The shape looks deceptively compact, until you consider those seemingly small wheels are actually 22- and 23-inch hoops tucked within those fenders.

Interior volume is maximized thanks to relatively short overhangs, as is ease of entry due to suicide-style rear doors that open with an aperture of 79 degrees, via a power-actuated mechanism. The easy access is important, especially since there’s not a whole lot of legroom for the two rear occupants: I’m 5’11”, and after getting comfortable in the driver seat then switching to the rear perch, I found that there was some space, but not a whole lot, for me to straighten my legs. However, there’s generous headroom that helps make the interior feel more vertically airy and spacious.

The cabin is a combination of well-appointed, high-tech and modern, with individual rear bucket seats that echo the form factor of the front seats. Though the leather upholstery has an upscale feel, there are also contemporary touches like a more technical Alcantara carpet trim that also happens to be bulletproof. Symmetry rules the interior design, with a mirror-like dashboard that sculpts its form around the driver’s digital instrument cluster and a passenger screen that’s larger than what you’ll find in Ferrari sports cars. Though the power-operated rear doors feel fancy (and minimalist, thanks to their frameless design), there’s also an impression of functionality to the whole endeavor — but not too functional, as the sportiness of the seats is backed up by the relatively compact 16.7 cubic-foot trunk. At least the rear seats fold down for added storage. Discreetly tucked between the rear seats is a flip-up leather cover for two cupholders; other unusual touches include a small multimedia control dial with grooved edges that raises or recesses at the touch of a button, and numerous shallow storage compartments that taper along lengthy sections of the interior.

Rather than incorporate a hybrid or full-EV drivetrain, Purosangue features a delightfully old-school propulsion system: a naturally aspirated 6.5-liter V12 producing 715 horsepower and 528 pound-feet of torque. Revised valvetrain, induction and exhaust systems enable the powertrain to realize 80% of its torque from 2,100 rpm. A dry sump system allows it to sit lower to the ground, and its front-mid-engine configuration and rear transaxle achieves an impressive front/rear weight distribution of 49/51. An all-new platform utilizes a stiffer, lighter structure that enables 30% more torsional stiffness than the late, great GTC4Lusso, yielding a dry weight of 4,482 pounds. Mated to an eight-speed dual-clutch gearbox, the engine drives all four wheels and should go like stink, with a claimed 0-62-mph time of 3.3 seconds and a top speed in excess of 192 mph. Like the now defunct GTC4Lusso, an all-wheel-drive system works up to fourth gear at 125 mph before disengaging.

Subtly sleek, curvaceous and delicately proportioned, the Ferrari Purosangue exceeds expectations in the flesh. In a way it ought to, with a starting sticker price of €390,000, or around $400,000. More important, this difficult-to-classify four-door breaks a new mold for Ferrari, one that we’re told is the product of many customer requests. No doubt there will be haters, in much the same way Porsche fanatics distrusted the Cayenne when it debuted. As it turns out, the folks in Zuffenhausen couldn’t have orchestrated a better anchor for the business, as sport utes now command over half of company sales, a phenomenon that’s being encountered by countless other ultraluxury carmakers.

In the here and now, the Purosangue presents a strong case for itself thanks to its stringent design philosophy and adherence to brand principles. It’s so focused on performance that it only offers two rear seats, and buyers couldn’t get a tow hitch attached to the tail if they wanted one. While it might be tempting to say that Enzo Ferrari would not approve of a Ferrari SUV or crossover, it’s hard to argue with the Purosangue’s execution. If this high-waisted four-seater drives half as well as we suspect it does, Ferrari should be onto a winner.
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Looks like one of those Toyota EV concepts from last year. Lol.
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Lamborghini / VW made a huge mistake not giving the Urus a bespoke V10. Purosangue says hold my wine to the Urus, DBX, Levante and Cayenne
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I think this was a HUGE missed opportunity for Ferrari.
The styling to me is very generic and the size is too compact. I do like the suicide doors.

If you’re going to do an SUV then just do a proper one.
They should have made it the size of DBX. The styling of DBX is amazing.

The NA V12 needs to be in a much more special design.
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Terrible name
Terrible interior design
Nice exterior
Nice back seats
Great engine
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I guess I'm not the only one who thought Toyota, though I was thinking of the wrong one.





Want a Ferrari SUV?! Save 400k and buy a Toyota!
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Originally Posted by Hoovey689
Lamborghini / VW made a huge mistake not giving the Urus a bespoke V10. Purosangue says hold my wine to the Urus, DBX, Levante and Cayenne
I wouldn't call it a mistake. The difference is Lamborghini designed the Urus as a volume model while the Purosangue isn't going to be one, it'll just be another Ferrari and thus can be more bespoke. Lambo will probably sell ten times as many Urus's as Ferrari will sell the Purosangue.
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Originally Posted by GFerg
I guess I'm not the only one who thought Toyota, though I was thinking of the wrong one.





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I don't see a resemblance of the Toyota.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
I wouldn't call it a mistake. The difference is Lamborghini designed the Urus as a volume model while the Purosangue isn't going to be one, it'll just be another Ferrari and thus can be more bespoke. Lambo will probably sell ten times as many Urus's as Ferrari will sell the Purosangue.
That's the mistake besides lack of V10. The car is and looks like a Q8, Cayenne, and Bentayga. Nothing special about the Urus, they took the easy way out and they'll sell a bunch of them. The Ferrari will command greater margins. Luckily Fiat doesn't have it's hands on Ferrari anymore otherwise the Purosangue would suffer the same fate. As it stands, there's nothing like the Purosangue which makes it unique like the GTC4Lusso the Purosangue essentially replaces. Kudos Ferrari
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Originally Posted by Hoovey689
That's the mistake besides lack of V10. The car is and looks like a Q8, Cayenne, and Bentayga. Nothing special about the Urus, they took the easy way out and they'll sell a bunch of them. The Ferrari will command greater margins. Luckily Fiat doesn't have it's hands on Ferrari anymore otherwise the Purosangue would suffer the same fate. As it stands, there's nothing like the Purosangue which makes it unique like the GTC4Lusso the Purosangue essentially replaces. Kudos Ferrari
I agree 100%. Using the Audi engine in the Urus was a disgrace. I'm sure there were good reasons for it as they initially announced it with the V10, but the saddest part is that Urus was still a massive success. I fully get that engine in the Bentley or Porsche, but Lambo for me should always have a screaming NA engine.
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Originally Posted by Hoovey689
That's the mistake besides lack of V10. The car is and looks like a Q8, Cayenne, and Bentayga. Nothing special about the Urus, they took the easy way out and they'll sell a bunch of them. The Ferrari will command greater margins. Luckily Fiat doesn't have it's hands on Ferrari anymore otherwise the Purosangue would suffer the same fate. As it stands, there's nothing like the Purosangue which makes it unique like the GTC4Lusso the Purosangue essentially replaces. Kudos Ferrari
I don't find my Cayenne Turbo Coupe looks like a Urus at all. I still think of the RS Q8, Cayenne Turbo GT, Bentayga, and Urus as special and each distinctive. Because they do mass produce this platform, they are pretty reliable. It will be interesting to see the lap time difference of the Ferrari vs a Cayenne Turbo GT. I've seen one Turbo GT and it belonged to the owner of my dealership...so still pretty special if you are trying to get an allocation. As to the design of the Ferrari, I think it's not bad. I like it has a lot of roundness to it. Overall, I still like the Roma of all the current Ferrari's. I love the Roma's front end. It's my favorite and looks more classic to me.

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It is a bit generic, for me it looks like a Mach E with a styling kit. It's easily the least ambitious Ferrari design in recent years. Still want one, though!

As for the Urus/Bentayga/Cayenne Turbo etc similarities, I think they all have enough of their own character and design DNA to stand alone even though they are related. They are all successful designs and they all follow their brand design language.
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I've never seen a Ferrari or Porsche I didn't like.
Some of these names crack me up tho. lol

Purosangue, um ok I'd still drive it!
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Originally Posted by Margate330
I've never seen a Ferrari or Porsche I didn't like.
Some of these names crack me up tho. lol

Purosangue, um ok I'd still drive it!
Portofino is not a great looking car. Take off Ferrari badge and nobody would ever look twice at it.

Ferrari designs have been mostly average ever since they stopped using Pininfarina.



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