2023 Lexus RZ vs Tesla Model Y Comparison
#4
Lexus Champion
While it won't beat the Model Y in sheer performance or range (at least for now), the Lexus RZ does have the upper hand in terms of its broader appeal and more traditional design. Throw in what promises to be rock-solid reliability, and it's safe to say that plenty of EV shoppers will find it to be a compelling alternative - especially if pricing lands where we expect it to.
#5
Lexus must catch up to Tesla on battery pack availability; Lexus just doesn't have enough access to traditional lithium ion batteries - alternatively, Lexus must make a breakthrough on alternative battery technologies.
#6
Pole Position
Lexus RZ is the worst Lexus since HS and I am saying this with a sadness in my heart. I really want Lexus BEV to show up and make a killin on the market but I don't want that to be some cheap Toyota reskin but a car like current LS, LC or RC or even upcoming RX
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#8
Lexus Fanatic
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i believe these will not be cross-shopped much.
the rz buyer is likely someone who doesn't like change that much, hates paying for gas, and doesn't drive far.
the rz buyer is likely someone who doesn't like change that much, hates paying for gas, and doesn't drive far.
Last edited by bitkahuna; 09-21-22 at 06:06 AM.
#9
Lexus Fanatic
Or a Lexus loyalist, especially RX hybrid.. This new EV by Lexus probably will be a perfect replacement for those who had the Lexus RXh the last 10-15 years Perfect replacement aside from the pathetic EV range. MSRP is gonna be $70K to $85K. Just goes to show you how expensive battery electrics. are
Last edited by Toys4RJill; 09-21-22 at 06:25 AM.
#10
"Wait for the big boys to get in..."
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#11
Quite frankly if I were Toyota, I would focus more on actually selling the bZ4X again instead of pushing more limited production vehicles. The bZ launch has been a disaster so far with the stop sale and buyback, they really need to get their stuff ironed out for a Lexus buyer who won't be as forgiving.
#13
Pit Crew
It is a well balanced review. My uncle, who resides in Vancouver, BC has owned a Tesla Model S for close to seven years I believe. Having ridden in his vehicle and knowing it history, I think the decision whether to purchase a Tesla over a Lexus isn't as simple as some posters would have you think.
Tesla
Pros: The Tesla has a much better range than the Lexus. With the extended battery, its range rivals that of Gasoline Powered Cars. Furthermore, with Tesla's Supercharger Network, you can pretty much travel anywhere on the Continental USA along with Canada and always have charging facilities available. In some States and Provinces, the Charging Network is cheaper than buying gasoline or diesel. Finally many hotels and grocery stores now have Tesla Charging Facilities in their parking lots.
Cons: The Tesla has a very unique chassis construction. Its aluminum body build structure, while strong is very unforgiving in the case of a collision. What folks would call a medium intensity collision will often result a Tesla being declared a total loss. Then there is its spare parts availability/lack of parts availability. Tesla tightly controls its parts supply. There is virtually no aftermarket parts and factory parts are very expensive. Often, a simple broken spring is unavailable, thus owners are forced to buy entire subassembly parts costing hundreds or nearly thousands of dollars. Servicing is another issue: most shops can't/won't touch a Tesla. If you don't have a local servicing centre, you will travel some distance for such service. Yes, all Tesla Models require a lot of warranty and out of warranty repairs. My uncle's vehicle's reliability has been on par with that of a Germany Luxury Car.
Lexus
Pros: The vehicle is a conventionally built structure with conventional built materials. The RZ has be repaired at any bodyshop and its mechanical components can be sourced easily from the dealership. The RZ and Toyota BZ are very similar vehicles. Thus you can leverage both Toyota and Lexus' massive dealership network for parts, servicing and even charging facilities. While the vehicle is still too new to be supported by aftermarket parts and repair facilities, its isn't unreasonable to conclude that it will get such support in the future. Also, being built on the common Toyota Platform, its reasonable to conclude it will be a reliable vehicle in the long term, but because it is so new there is no data.
Cons: There is no way around it, the Lexus has a much worse range and its compatibility with chargers isn't as good as Tesla. At this moment, it would be hard to do a cross country trip with an RZ. The vehicle simply doesn't have the range nor the charging infrastructure. Living in the PNW USA, that isn't an issue for me, but saying that, I wouldn't take the RZ across the Midwest US. Then there is the cost, the Tesla get a lot of Federal and State tax rebates, hence is cheaper to purchase. Yes Lexus is giving away $10,000 USD Lease credit, but that still doesn't make it fully competitive. Plus a used Tesla still gets some Federal and many State tax credits which make it even cheaper to buy than an RZ. Finally, just getting ahold of an RZ is tough. Some dealerships have two three year waitlists. Some Tesla models can be purchased with as little as six months of wait time. Used Tesla models can be had for a really good price at many non-Tesla new car dealers, this is especially true in the west coast.
Overall, the decision on which vehicle to buy depends on a lot of factors. If my family plans on only having one car, or if plan on just leasing an electric vehicle, the Tesla is the recommended buy. If my family wants a second car, or I want to keep my vehicle for at least ten year/150,000 miles, then the Lexus wins out. It all depends what your personal situation is. Finally, if you need a car right away, the Tesla might be a better option because it is just easier to find a new/used model on the open market.
Tesla
Pros: The Tesla has a much better range than the Lexus. With the extended battery, its range rivals that of Gasoline Powered Cars. Furthermore, with Tesla's Supercharger Network, you can pretty much travel anywhere on the Continental USA along with Canada and always have charging facilities available. In some States and Provinces, the Charging Network is cheaper than buying gasoline or diesel. Finally many hotels and grocery stores now have Tesla Charging Facilities in their parking lots.
Cons: The Tesla has a very unique chassis construction. Its aluminum body build structure, while strong is very unforgiving in the case of a collision. What folks would call a medium intensity collision will often result a Tesla being declared a total loss. Then there is its spare parts availability/lack of parts availability. Tesla tightly controls its parts supply. There is virtually no aftermarket parts and factory parts are very expensive. Often, a simple broken spring is unavailable, thus owners are forced to buy entire subassembly parts costing hundreds or nearly thousands of dollars. Servicing is another issue: most shops can't/won't touch a Tesla. If you don't have a local servicing centre, you will travel some distance for such service. Yes, all Tesla Models require a lot of warranty and out of warranty repairs. My uncle's vehicle's reliability has been on par with that of a Germany Luxury Car.
Lexus
Pros: The vehicle is a conventionally built structure with conventional built materials. The RZ has be repaired at any bodyshop and its mechanical components can be sourced easily from the dealership. The RZ and Toyota BZ are very similar vehicles. Thus you can leverage both Toyota and Lexus' massive dealership network for parts, servicing and even charging facilities. While the vehicle is still too new to be supported by aftermarket parts and repair facilities, its isn't unreasonable to conclude that it will get such support in the future. Also, being built on the common Toyota Platform, its reasonable to conclude it will be a reliable vehicle in the long term, but because it is so new there is no data.
Cons: There is no way around it, the Lexus has a much worse range and its compatibility with chargers isn't as good as Tesla. At this moment, it would be hard to do a cross country trip with an RZ. The vehicle simply doesn't have the range nor the charging infrastructure. Living in the PNW USA, that isn't an issue for me, but saying that, I wouldn't take the RZ across the Midwest US. Then there is the cost, the Tesla get a lot of Federal and State tax rebates, hence is cheaper to purchase. Yes Lexus is giving away $10,000 USD Lease credit, but that still doesn't make it fully competitive. Plus a used Tesla still gets some Federal and many State tax credits which make it even cheaper to buy than an RZ. Finally, just getting ahold of an RZ is tough. Some dealerships have two three year waitlists. Some Tesla models can be purchased with as little as six months of wait time. Used Tesla models can be had for a really good price at many non-Tesla new car dealers, this is especially true in the west coast.
Overall, the decision on which vehicle to buy depends on a lot of factors. If my family plans on only having one car, or if plan on just leasing an electric vehicle, the Tesla is the recommended buy. If my family wants a second car, or I want to keep my vehicle for at least ten year/150,000 miles, then the Lexus wins out. It all depends what your personal situation is. Finally, if you need a car right away, the Tesla might be a better option because it is just easier to find a new/used model on the open market.
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#14
Advanced
Should have named it Model U
Don’t you buy no ugly car.
#15
Lexus Champion
Model Y EVERY SINGLE TIME!
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