2023 m2 seen - could it be any uglier?
#91
I know your joking but lets give BMW credit here - this is a NEW sports coupe with amazing ICE inline 6 motor mated to a 6speed manual in a high quality car. All this for less than $65k.
This thing will have long wait lists.
This thing will have long wait lists.
#92
This thing is so ugly. BMW went from making some of the most attractive cars on the road and now they’re making crap like this. At least the new 3/4 Series has a nice body with an extremely ugly front end. A different front end on those cars would be a game changer.
The new M2 however is a massive downgrade in every way, looks wise.
The new M2 however is a massive downgrade in every way, looks wise.
#93
Looks much better in red than the powder blue leaked photos, Overall I think it's fine but even so I'm still struggling with the rear. BUT it's a BMW so I'm sure in 18 months to 2 years the looks will grow to be acceptable. Only other note worthy point, as has been mentioned, is the weight. I thought maybe they'd try to shed a few pounds but seems that wasn't their plan.
#94
#97
I'm confused. What country/currency are we talking about here? There are 354 Civic Type Rs currently listed on Autotrader in the US. The most ridiculously marked-up one is $56k, and the cheapest is a high-mileage 2017 at $31k. Most are within a few grand (plus or minus) from the original MSRP. They're obviously not available new anymore, but when they were a friend of mine purchased a 2019 and a 2021, both at sticker.
#98
I'm confused. What country/currency are we talking about here? There are 354 Civic Type Rs currently listed on Autotrader in the US. The most ridiculously marked-up one is $56k, and the cheapest is a high-mileage 2017 at $31k. Most are within a few grand (plus or minus) from the original MSRP. They're obviously not available new anymore, but when they were a friend of mine purchased a 2019 and a 2021, both at sticker.
#99
Parts and engines are only available to Honda Racing Line members.
The Type R TC is designed as a turn-key solution for professional racers, and for skilled Type R enthusiasts who wish to transition from track time in a stock Type R to a fully built race car. Eligible for SRO TC Americas Touring Car competition, the all-new Type R TC race car is available to Honda Racing Line members with racing licenses exclusively through HPD at a manufacturer's price of $89,900. The specially outfitted Type R joins the TCA-class Civic Si and TCR-class Type R in HPD's portfolio of Civic-based, turn-key racing machines.
The Type R TC is designed as a turn-key solution for professional racers, and for skilled Type R enthusiasts who wish to transition from track time in a stock Type R to a fully built race car. Eligible for SRO TC Americas Touring Car competition, the all-new Type R TC race car is available to Honda Racing Line members with racing licenses exclusively through HPD at a manufacturer's price of $89,900. The specially outfitted Type R joins the TCA-class Civic Si and TCR-class Type R in HPD's portfolio of Civic-based, turn-key racing machines.
#100
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estimated price for normal civic type r is 39k
https://www.caranddriver.com/honda/civic-type-r
as i said, the m2 will be the step up from the civic type r. both brash, pretty ugly, with go bits but ugly details.
#101
Other custom factory race cars like this include the Hyundai Veloster N TCR ($155k), Audi RS3 TCR ($150k) Toyota Supra GT4 ($195k), and BMW M2 CS Racing ($105k). That's before you get into the really crazy stuff like the 911 GT2 RS Clubsport 25 ($620k) or NSX GT3 ($500k).
#103
Eh. Honestly not that impressed for the money, the looks are not helping
#105