2023 Toyota Crown First Drive Review
#16
Lexus Champion
Just doesn't look right. If there is indeed less room inside than the Avalon, then why on earth would they create this? And with lower gas mileage to boot.
They are playing the GM game, creating new model names in an effort to bring in new customers. It won't work. They will just go elsewhere or stick to an ES/Camry.
They are playing the GM game, creating new model names in an effort to bring in new customers. It won't work. They will just go elsewhere or stick to an ES/Camry.
#17
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still can't understand it being 4" taller than an avalon, same ground clearance, and worse headroom.
i think this will be an epic failure.
i think this will be an epic failure.
#18
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#20
Lexus Fanatic
At this point, they should have just made an electric version of the Avalon. Maybe use the electric architecture of the recent SUV they rolled out. This likely won't stand out anymore than an XLE Camry.
You're right. It will fail big time.
Maybe you can go back to the dealer and get a pic. Lol
You're right. It will fail big time.
Maybe you can go back to the dealer and get a pic. Lol
I do have pics. I wasn’t gonna share. But not from far. That is much higher than a Avalon
#21
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Also, all the height is in the body, not with added ground clearance. The Crown has just 0.5 inch more air between the rockers and the road.
#22
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#23
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omg what is with the short wheelbase and giant overhangs... and the rear door looks about a foot long/wide.
#24
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#25
Lead Lap
I've seen it in person, we're defintely not talking RAV4 ground clearance here. It just looks tall because of the cladding, wheels, and slightly raised suspension. The effect isn't nearly as dramatic as the S60 cross country with its 7.9in. of ground clearance:
#26
Lexus Fanatic
Toyota doesn't always tell you the real stats. It depends. Toyota's Japan SUV list their lowest running clearance and that is cross member near the transfer case. however the rear of the SUVs are MUCH lower in the suspension points at the rear. I have no idea how they measured the Crown, but it is looks much higher off the ground than any Avalon ever could be.
#29
Lexus Fanatic
One reason that the large sedan market is rapidly shrinking (besides the greater flexibility of crossovers) is that they are too bulky and difficult to maneuver and park in some conditions.
On the new Crown, I am not impressed with the dash for a top-line sedan...IMO it is too plain-looking, and looks too much like that of a Corolla Cross at half the rice.
Last edited by mmarshall; 03-24-23 at 05:07 AM.
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