My point is the 2.0 4-cyl *do* feel different. I'm sure 95% of the buyers don't differentiate between them but they definitely feel different to me (atleast EA888 vs B48 and Giulia's 2.0, I cannot speak for Merc's or Genesis 2.0s)

 

Absolutely not, but I think it would be as good or better as an EV...

I would MUCH rather have an EV than something with a 4 cyl.

 

Different EVs feel different too.

 

No they don't. The acceleration profile and drivelines are all the exact same. It's not like a K20A1 vs EA888 or 1ZZ engines all feel VASTLY different and have totally different emotion of sound and output.

 

I just completely disagree. Like I said, drive a Model S and drive an EQS, they are very different cars that have very different characters on the road.

 

Well I have driven the S and 3 in most versions and the Hyundais and they all feel identical. The power delivery is all the same other than outright time it takes to increase the speed.

I'm sure I'll drive the Mercedes offerings at some point but I don't see how they will be any different

 

Having driven those same cars I don't see how you can say they feel identical. I think you're going into those experiences looking to dislike them since you hate EVs.

Power delivery is not the only part of what makes one car different from another, its just the one part that you are hyper focused on. What you are saying is if you put the engine from an LS into an ES, it becomes the same. Thats just absurd.

 

No it doesn't since the LS has different ratios and is RWD plus a massively different power curve.

The EVs are all the same curve with no gears and the same drive type. There is no difference in acceleration feel, in suspension feel sure but we aren't talking about that.

 

EVs also have different power curves and they have different drive styles (RWD vs AWD, dual motor, single motor etc). You are saying the powertrain is the only differentiator in an EV, but it’s not in an ICE. That’s just your bias talking.

There are many factors that go into what makes one car unique from another car, the powertrain is just one of those things. Even if you put the LS powertrain into the ES and made it RWD, the ES would still not be an LS.

 

No but it would accelerate the same way. It's not my bias since I have actually tried them out and found them to have the same feel.

EVs do not have different power curves, they have max TQ at zero rpm and fall off from there.

 

Yet I also have tried them and haven't found them to feel the same at all. And when power falls off up in the acceleration range...thats a power curve. Its just a different power curve than you are used to in an ICE vehicle.

So if they accelerate the same way you see no other difference between the ES and the LS? By your statement they would be exactly the same. I know you know enough about the LS to know how absurd that statement is.