2023 Honda Accord
02-07-23 | 06:05 PM
#78
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02-08-23 | 11:31 AM
#79
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Whoa...........time out. Car & Driver is a credible magazine. You may not always agree with their views (I don't always do so myself).......but those people are not idiots, particularly since Brock Yates (who actually did write a lot of drivel) left a number of years ago. They test, review, and evaluate vehicles for a living, and take their work seriously. While, true, their evaluations are often done from a sport-oriented point of view, that is also the case with most of the competing magazines like Road &Track, Motor Trend, Automobile, etc..... For a vehicle to make their Ten Best List like the Mazda Miata, Honda Accord, and BMW 3-series did for so many years is nothing to sneeze at.
02-08-23 | 11:45 AM
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02-08-23 | 12:38 PM
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Not anymore they're not. They're the least bad of them all but still ruined nevertheless. Dead good editors are spinning. I remember when I got my C&D it was like Xmas morning for a second. I can't remember the last time I picked up any C&D of mine.
However they are very credible with testing procedures and objective data when they're not being CNN, I'll give them that. Just don't give them a really really awesome vehicle like a TRX or Escalade V because you'll have to read a half of page of whining about fuel economy.
However they are very credible with testing procedures and objective data when they're not being CNN, I'll give them that. Just don't give them a really really awesome vehicle like a TRX or Escalade V because you'll have to read a half of page of whining about fuel economy.
02-08-23 | 12:51 PM
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It is not the just print. it it their format and style.. People want videos and short very easy to read writing. They don't want long drawn out articles. Even their graphs and diagrams are WAY to serious and overly complex. Autoblog used to be really great...but they are now stale as well I can't listen to their podcasts anymore
02-08-23 | 01:01 PM
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From: Knoxville, TN
It is not the just print. it it their format and style.. People want videos and short very easy to read writing. They don't want long drawn out articles. Even their graphs and diagrams are WAY to serious and overly complex. Autoblog used to be really great...but they are now stale as well I can't listen to their podcasts anymore
This Accord is a disgrace. If I wanted a new car for $35k (and we thought about it at one point) I would have gone straight to Honda. Not anymore that's for damn sure. 204hp.
02-08-23 | 01:23 PM
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Whoa...........time out. Car & Driver is a credible magazine. You may not always agree with their views (I don't always do so myself).......but those people are not idiots, particularly since Brock Yates (who actually did write a lot of drivel) left a number of years ago. They test, review, and evaluate vehicles for a living, and take their work seriously. While, true, their evaluations are often done from a sport-oriented point of view, that is also the case with most of the competing magazines like Road &Track, Motor Trend, Automobile, etc..... For a vehicle to make their Ten Best List like the Mazda Miata, Honda Accord, and BMW 3-series did for so many years is nothing to sneeze at.
02-08-23 | 01:31 PM
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Not anymore they're not. They're the least bad of them all but still ruined nevertheless. Dead good editors are spinning. I remember when I got my C&D it was like Xmas morning for a second. I can't remember the last time I picked up any C&D of mine.
However they are very credible with testing procedures and objective data when they're not being CNN, I'll give them that. Just don't give them a really really awesome vehicle like a TRX or Escalade V because you'll have to read a half of page of whining about fuel economy.
However they are very credible with testing procedures and objective data when they're not being CNN, I'll give them that. Just don't give them a really really awesome vehicle like a TRX or Escalade V because you'll have to read a half of page of whining about fuel economy.
02-08-23 | 01:44 PM
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Just because you said this I looked up C&D's review of the Escalade V. They spent exactly one sentence speaking about fuel economy. 2023 Cadillac Escalade-V Tested: Power and Money (caranddriver.com)
Last edited by AJT123; 02-08-23 at 01:47 PM.
02-08-23 | 01:51 PM
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I like C&D's format. I save all my mags for the lake when I go radio silent so I will be looking at them in a couple months. The thing is, you don't need these mags to keep up with everything anymore, at all. That's another reason I don't read them.
This Accord is a disgrace. If I wanted a new car for $35k (and we thought about it at one point) I would have gone straight to Honda. Not anymore that's for damn sure. 204hp.
This Accord is a disgrace. If I wanted a new car for $35k (and we thought about it at one point) I would have gone straight to Honda. Not anymore that's for damn sure. 204hp.