lexus vs bmw suvs
11-14-22, 03:54 PM
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The key is to have a vehicle that meets the preponderance of your needs, and unibody crossovers/SUVs really do that for a lot of people which is why they are so popular. Sure they may not ride or handle quite as well as a sedan, but they are surprisingly close and have a lot more capability on top of that. A big BOF SUV rides and drives nothing like a sedan.
11-14-22, 03:54 PM
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It doesn't offend me at all...I have no idea why we're even arguing about this. All I ever said was the RX was not of the same caliber as the X5 which it isn't, in a thread where we are discussing the Lexus and BMW SUV options. Somehow that hurt your fanny, and now you've drug the thread off topic trying to somehow insult me because I lease cars. I will use whatever term I want, you will just have to deal with that. If you can't handle that, just put me on your ignore list.
11-14-22, 03:58 PM
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And now you're PMing me trying to compare finances? Dude....get a grip.
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11-14-22, 04:04 PM
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Thats absolutely not true. I drove Lexus vehicles exclusively for 22 years, I am a big Lexus fan. BUT, the reality is that those two vehicles are not peers, and Lexus has all but abandoned the top end of the market. Sure, as a Lexus fan the fact that the brand no longer sells anything I want is really sad. I'd love to buy a big comfortable Lexus sedan with a V8, or a high end Lexus crossover like an X5 or X7 but no such car exists.
And now you're PMing me trying to compare finances? Dude....get a grip.
And now you're PMing me trying to compare finances? Dude....get a grip.
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11-14-22, 04:09 PM
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Leasing saves me money, thats why I do it. All I'm an expert in is what works for me in my own situation, I'm not trying to teach you anything. You do you.
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11-14-22, 04:44 PM
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A 992 is $300K, nobody who can afford one is complaining about a $2500 battery. Cayenne's start at 70K and Porsche Nickle and dimes you to death so you'll end up averaging close to 90K for one unless you're going GTS which is alot more. Most people can't afford either, the BMW M3 Battery will cost you $1800 also a car pushing 100K now.
11-14-22, 04:54 PM
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A 992 is $300K, nobody who can afford one is complaining about a $2500 battery. Cayenne's start at 70K and Porsche Nickle and dimes you to death so you'll end up averaging close to 90K for one unless you're going GTS which is alot more. Most people can't afford either, the BMW M3 Battery will cost you $1800 also a car pushing 100K now.
11-14-22, 05:10 PM
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A 992 is $300K, nobody who can afford one is complaining about a $2500 battery. Cayenne's start at 70K and Porsche Nickle and dimes you to death so you'll end up averaging close to 90K for one unless you're going GTS which is alot more. Most people can't afford either, the BMW M3 Battery will cost you $1800 also a car pushing 100K now.
Porsche owners may complain, but at the end of the day are they trading their Porsches en masse for more pedestrian mainstream cars that are dramatically cheaper to maintain? No.
11-14-22, 05:24 PM
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BMW oil changes are every 10,000 Miles, Your dealer was raping you. I have an M340i and oil changes at the dealer are $100. My Q50 Red Sport had $200 Oil changes though and they used the excuse "Mercedes charges more. " Complete non sense, outside of the free service I would go to Independent German mechanics that are a hell of a lot cheaper. Only downside is you don't get a loaner.
I actually am voluntarily changing the oil every 5,000 lol. It's my wife's car - if she wants it to be a dealership queen, that's fine by me. Maybe once it's out of warranty I'll look for a different shop, but actually, I do like our dealership, BMW of Gwinnett Place, a lot.
Sorry for off-topic, felt it was somewhat necessary to respond to this in the moment.
I think maybe the "refinement" I spoke about has to do with the suspension architecture. Another example - driving an X1/2-series Gran Coupe versus an X3/3-series. The former ones are also lacking a bit of that balance.
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11-14-22, 05:31 PM
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Poor word choice, there.
I actually am voluntarily changing the oil every 5,000 lol. It's my wife's car - if she wants it to be a dealership queen, that's fine by me. Maybe once it's out of warranty I'll look for a different shop, but actually, I do like our dealership, BMW of Gwinnett Place, a lot.
Sorry for off-topic, felt it was somewhat necessary to respond to this in the moment.
I actually am voluntarily changing the oil every 5,000 lol. It's my wife's car - if she wants it to be a dealership queen, that's fine by me. Maybe once it's out of warranty I'll look for a different shop, but actually, I do like our dealership, BMW of Gwinnett Place, a lot.
Sorry for off-topic, felt it was somewhat necessary to respond to this in the moment.
11-14-22, 05:47 PM
#132
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Off Topic Arentz Sorry...but do you like your IS 350 F Sport? I was kinda throwing that around as an idea...or IS 500. But curious how the weight difference would be between the IS 350 and 500. I might kinda like the lighter weight. I know the gas range and mileage of the 500 would probably be less. Sporty handling and braking matter to me more now than pure acceleration.. You are lucky to have a BMW dealer you like!
To be honest I seriously contemplated trading it for either a newer IS 350, an X3 M40i (speaking of BMW SUVs) for hypothetical rug-rat-mobile duties, or even an IS 500, but have not been able to sell myself on the upgrades yet. My wife even wanted me to look at an RX, thinking that, because I am a Lexus guy, I'd go for it, but nope... If I have to drive the baby buggy, it had better at least be somewhat fun to drive. No shade to the RX; I think it is great for what it is but not for me you know.
11-14-22, 06:01 PM
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Because the RX is a joke compared o the Cayenne? That's why I'm not comparing them
11-14-22, 06:04 PM
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As a mod I feel compelled to recommend asking in the 3IS forums instead of here, but the short version is yes, the IS 350 has been so nice to live with.
To be honest I seriously contemplated trading it for either a newer IS 350, an X3 M40i (speaking of BMW SUVs) for hypothetical rug-rat-mobile duties, or even an IS 500, but have not been able to sell myself on the upgrades yet. My wife even wanted me to look at an RX, thinking that, because I am a Lexus guy, I'd go for it, but nope... If I have to drive the baby buggy, it had better at least be somewhat fun to drive. No shade to the RX; I think it is great for what it is but not for me you know.
To be honest I seriously contemplated trading it for either a newer IS 350, an X3 M40i (speaking of BMW SUVs) for hypothetical rug-rat-mobile duties, or even an IS 500, but have not been able to sell myself on the upgrades yet. My wife even wanted me to look at an RX, thinking that, because I am a Lexus guy, I'd go for it, but nope... If I have to drive the baby buggy, it had better at least be somewhat fun to drive. No shade to the RX; I think it is great for what it is but not for me you know.
11-14-22, 06:04 PM
#135
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Thats absurd. An X5 or X7 is rock solid at speeds well over 90 MPH. What isn't solid at those speeds is a big BOF SUV...the latest Suburban I drove was a good bit all over the road at 70 MPH.
The key is to have a vehicle that meets the preponderance of your needs, and unibody crossovers/SUVs really do that for a lot of people which is why they are so popular. Sure they may not ride or handle quite as well as a sedan, but they are surprisingly close and have a lot more capability on top of that. A big BOF SUV rides and drives nothing like a sedan.
The key is to have a vehicle that meets the preponderance of your needs, and unibody crossovers/SUVs really do that for a lot of people which is why they are so popular. Sure they may not ride or handle quite as well as a sedan, but they are surprisingly close and have a lot more capability on top of that. A big BOF SUV rides and drives nothing like a sedan.