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Old 12-23-22, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
What is the advantage of having an isolated pod for the gauge cluster? You actually get less space to place information than if you just got a fully connected dashboard. And how does this work out for people under 5'7"?
I find the interior stark and visually lacking, the engine note like a lawn mower, CVT droning/lack of driver-controlled shifting, minimal gains in mpg's over the last model, and ridiculous pricing all turn-offs. Sorry, I'll be the only one not liking the new Prius.
It looks cool and HIGH TECH.
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Old 12-23-22, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
W minimal gains in mpg's over the last model, and ridiculous pricing all turn-offs. Sorry, I'll be the only one not liking the new Prius.
It's faster, more powerful and still better mpg than the old one. Not sure what there is to complain about, its still a Prius. The only thing that it went backward on is headroom.
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Originally Posted by 703
It's faster, more powerful and still better mpg than the old one. Not sure what there is to complain about, its still a Prius. The only thing that it went backward on is headroom.
100% agree. The Corolla is already a best seller for its combination of practicality, reliability and gas mileage. The Prius is essentially a better-looking Corolla hatchback with quicker acceleration and better gas mileage. Why wouldn't it succeed?
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Default 2023 Toyota Prius offers dealer-installed catalytic converter anti-theft guard

$140 Cat Shield can save having to replace a $1,000 component



At the SEMA show at the beginning of November, Toyota announced an Associated Accessory Products (AAP) program for the main brand and for Lexus. Instead of making customers go to the aftermarket for certain mods, the AAP put dozens of accessories from companies like ARB, Go Rhino, Rigid Industries, and Yakima on dealer parts lists, making the accessories available for order at storefronts and sometimes on a vehicle's online configurator. The catalog isn't limited to off-road gear, either. Carscoops noted that California company MillerCat joined the roster, one of the firm's missions to create metal shielding for catalytic converters. For $140 plus the price of dealer installation, a Prius owner with a Cat Shield has a better chance of keeping a car component that can cost more than $1,000 new, and that the vehicle won't run without.

The National Insurance Crime Bureau reported 3,246 cat thefts nationwide in 2008. In 2020, the theft rate rose to 14,433 cats, a 325% increase over 2019. Those numbers only count thefts off an insured vehicle that the policy holder reported. The real number is far higher. Hybrids are popular targets because their cats are larger and contain more precious metals such as palladium, platinum, and rhodium. Electrified powertrains don't run the continuous ICE duty cycle of a standard non-electrified powertrain, causing greater fluctuations in the temperature of the catalytic converter, which needs to be about 500 to 800 degrees Fahrenheit for optimum efficiency. At the time of writing, a recycling company valued scrap rhodium at about $410 per gram, and there might be two grams of the silvery stuff in the average catalytic converter. The platinum and palladium count can get up to 7 grams apiece. Pickups and vehicles with large-displacement engines are also popular targets.

The Prius Cat Shield is made from 5052 aluminum known for its strength and saltwater corrosion resistance, and high-grade 304 stainless steel commonly called "Inconel," known for corrosion resistance and durability. The shield's affixed with what MillerCAT calls a tamper-proof screw kit. There's no drilling needed and the unit clamps to existing hardpoints, so buyers can install it themselves if they want to skip the dealer cost.

More members of the Toyota family can get in on this action. Cat Shields, the part of MillerCAT focusing on shields, has been making these fixtures for years and offers protection going back to the 2004 Prius and the various Prius family vehicles. There are shields for the 4Runner, Corolla, RAV4 Prime and Hybrid, Sequoia, Tacoma, and Tundra Hybrid as well at the company site. It's likely some of these units will make their way under the Toyota aftermarket umbrella as part of the AAP program.
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Old 12-27-22, 12:19 PM
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Why wouldn’t Toyota just install this at the factory? $140 bucks. Cheap company sometimes
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Why wouldn’t Toyota just install this at the factory? $140 bucks. Cheap company sometimes
because NO car maker does?

and it's not an issue everywhere.

but if i was in a city, that's a bargain.
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Old 12-27-22, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
because NO car maker does?
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Toyota could lead and innovate with their options. It’s $140 standard. Everyone can benefit. Super cheap by Toyota.
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Old 12-27-22, 01:35 PM
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Thats something that most buyers don't want or need and won't appreciate, I don't see any reason to make it standard.
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It's a great option to have available, especially in areas where cat theft is widespread.

There's no drilling needed and the unit clamps to existing hardpoints, so buyers can install it themselves if they want to skip the dealer cost.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Toyota could lead and innovate with their options. It’s $140 standard. Everyone can benefit. Super cheap by Toyota.
Beside the cost, there are drawbacks...weight (designers are looking to lighten vehicles for improved MPG's), added complexity that make repairs more difficult, reduced cooling (cats already run extremely hot). Too, once anti-theft devices become standardized, so will the thieves tactics for defeating them.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Why wouldn’t Toyota just install this at the factory? $140 bucks. Cheap company sometimes
American likes to have options. We don't want Toyota to install that without our consent.....lol.
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Old 12-27-22, 04:01 PM
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why would the car manufacturer care about cat thefts? Should the manufacturer care about the same cars wheels getting stolen?
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Old 12-27-22, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 4TehNguyen
why would the car manufacturer care about cat thefts? Should the manufacturer care about the same cars wheels getting stolen?
They do when they want to. In Europe, LX600 has a finger print sensor. But not USA. Toyota can really cheap sometimes.
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Old 12-27-22, 04:42 PM
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Toyota sells wheel locks too. 😁
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