2023 Toyota Prius
01-16-23 | 03:26 PM
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Toyota's hybrid version yes. It's an ingenious system and very efficient. But stomp on the pedal and you get constant drone the engine at about 4500rpm the whole time.
I really wish Toyota would stop farting around with hybrids and go all EV. A full EV Prius would be so much win.
I really wish Toyota would stop farting around with hybrids and go all EV. A full EV Prius would be so much win.
01-16-23 | 10:05 PM
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Interestingly enough, with the recent price cuts, the Model 3 is now $44K. With the $7K tax credit that puts it within the exact same price bracket as the Prius. I wonder how many people will pick a Prius over a Model 3 besides Toyota loyalists, especially as the Prius will be marked up by dealers because of the relatively low supply.
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01-17-23 | 06:37 AM
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What? The car maxes out at $37K. Hardly an aspirational price.
Interestingly enough, with the recent price cuts, the Model 3 is now $44K. With the $7K tax credit that puts it within the exact same price bracket as the Prius. I wonder how many people will pick a Prius over a Model 3 besides Toyota loyalists, especially as the Prius will be marked up by dealers because of the relatively low supply.
Interestingly enough, with the recent price cuts, the Model 3 is now $44K. With the $7K tax credit that puts it within the exact same price bracket as the Prius. I wonder how many people will pick a Prius over a Model 3 besides Toyota loyalists, especially as the Prius will be marked up by dealers because of the relatively low supply.
Blood in the streets for a lot of OEM's. Sheesh.
At least the Prius finally looks good!
01-17-23 | 01:44 PM
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What? The car maxes out at $37K. Hardly an aspirational price.
Interestingly enough, with the recent price cuts, the Model 3 is now $44K. With the $7K tax credit that puts it within the exact same price bracket as the Prius. I wonder how many people will pick a Prius over a Model 3 besides Toyota loyalists, especially as the Prius will be marked up by dealers because of the relatively low supply.
Interestingly enough, with the recent price cuts, the Model 3 is now $44K. With the $7K tax credit that puts it within the exact same price bracket as the Prius. I wonder how many people will pick a Prius over a Model 3 besides Toyota loyalists, especially as the Prius will be marked up by dealers because of the relatively low supply.
01-17-23 | 04:05 PM
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Additionally, the consumer tax credit is expected to drop to $3,750 or less around March. The Prius Prime and all Teslas should be eligible for $7,500 tax credit on leases, but the captive lender/bank gets those tax credits, and can choose whether to pass any or all of it to the lessee. The tax credit on leases has no income, battery, place of manufacturing or other limitations.
01-17-23 | 04:43 PM
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It's no surprise people who drive luxury cars with V8's, V6's and EV power-plants find Toyota's 2.5 rental offerings unpleasant. But, this thread is about the new Prius, which on first impression looks to be a winner! I would hope the Toyota detractors could curb their bashing for a minute so the rest of us can be hopeful and enthusiastic about the new Prius.
Toyota does not aspire to be the best in most categories that entice auto enthusiasts, i.e., styling, performance, tech, etc. They aspire for great, long-term reliability. If this doesn't float your boat, that's fine, but, no need to belittle Toyota products or their buyers.
As fuel prices increase along with regulations to increase fuel mileage, manufacturers are tasked with ever-greater compromises in design. Over time, they'll improve these designs. Sure, Toyota evolves slower than other manufactures, partly because they're a behemoth, and partly due to their tendency to make reliability a prime objective. Slower evolution leads to higher reliability. For me, this is a feature, not a bug.
I'm sure we would all love to find a brand that was number one in all categories, but that's not going to happen, Compromise is key for buyers. Each must prioritize their wants and needs, and settle for a vehicle that best suites them. People are different, so different brands appeal to different people.
Toyota does not aspire to be the best in most categories that entice auto enthusiasts, i.e., styling, performance, tech, etc. They aspire for great, long-term reliability. If this doesn't float your boat, that's fine, but, no need to belittle Toyota products or their buyers.
As fuel prices increase along with regulations to increase fuel mileage, manufacturers are tasked with ever-greater compromises in design. Over time, they'll improve these designs. Sure, Toyota evolves slower than other manufactures, partly because they're a behemoth, and partly due to their tendency to make reliability a prime objective. Slower evolution leads to higher reliability. For me, this is a feature, not a bug.
I'm sure we would all love to find a brand that was number one in all categories, but that's not going to happen, Compromise is key for buyers. Each must prioritize their wants and needs, and settle for a vehicle that best suites them. People are different, so different brands appeal to different people.
01-17-23 | 04:47 PM
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It's no surprise people who drive luxury cars with V8's, V6's and EV power-plants find Toyota's 2.5 rental offerings unpleasant. But, this thread is about the new Prius, which on first impression looks to be a winner! I would hope the Toyota detractors could curb their bashing for a minute so the rest of us can be hopeful and enthusiastic about the new Prius.
Toyota does not aspire to be the best in most categories that entice auto enthusiasts, i.e., styling, performance, tech, etc. They aspire for great, long-term reliability. If this doesn't float your boat, that's fine, but, no need to belittle Toyota products or their buyers.
As fuel prices increase along with regulations to increase fuel mileage, manufacturers are tasked with ever-greater compromises in design. Over time, they'll improve these designs. Sure, Toyota evolves slower than other manufactures, partly because they're a behemoth, and partly due to their tendency to make reliability a prime objective. Slower evolution leads to higher reliability. For me, this is a feature, not a bug.
I'm sure we would all love to find a brand that was number one in all categories, but that's not going to happen, Compromise is key for buyers. Each must prioritize their wants and needs, and settle for a vehicle that best suites them. People are different, so different brands appeal to different people.
Toyota does not aspire to be the best in most categories that entice auto enthusiasts, i.e., styling, performance, tech, etc. They aspire for great, long-term reliability. If this doesn't float your boat, that's fine, but, no need to belittle Toyota products or their buyers.
As fuel prices increase along with regulations to increase fuel mileage, manufacturers are tasked with ever-greater compromises in design. Over time, they'll improve these designs. Sure, Toyota evolves slower than other manufactures, partly because they're a behemoth, and partly due to their tendency to make reliability a prime objective. Slower evolution leads to higher reliability. For me, this is a feature, not a bug.
I'm sure we would all love to find a brand that was number one in all categories, but that's not going to happen, Compromise is key for buyers. Each must prioritize their wants and needs, and settle for a vehicle that best suites them. People are different, so different brands appeal to different people.
I would hope the Toyota detractors could curb their bashing for a minute
02-23-23 | 09:22 PM
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I can’t understand why Toyota made the front pillar cover like this.