^^ this.

you're telling us you know your 10 year old audi system is leagues better than a 2022 lexus? how do you know this? now my 2021 lc500 safety tech isn't quite as good as my '21 hyundai santa fe (believe it or not) but the ACC is perfectly fine, very smooth and predictable and it's actually a bit more 'cautious' than the hyundai.

 

I also wouldn't say that yours and mine are the same generation. They continually make improvements throughout the model run, and mine is a post refresh, the system in mine is notably better than in the 2015 S550 my friend had. Audis actually have excellent driver assist in the newer cars, they have a traffic jam assist for instance that requires ZERO driver involvement.

Like I've described before, there isn't anything not to like. You're still driving the car, its just doing most of the work, keeping you centered in the lane, etc. On an open highway, its a thing of beauty. In traffic if you want to drive aggressively and force people out of your way and all, it can be frustrating.

 

I say that because I test drove two LC500s to get a feel for them, I really liked them but they aren't right for me yet since a 2 door is not on my radar. If I am in control and I see a light that is green 300-500 yards ahead I know it will be red by the time I get there so I just throttle off gradually and glide onto the brakes and tuck in 1 car length away from the cars ahead of me. The ACC system will also slow down and stop behind the car ahead of me but they will only start slowing down much later than when I begin the process. That difference in style is extremely annoying to me, I expect certain steps of driving to be done in certain ways and the automated systems simply are not smart enough to know what I want them to do.

 

I actually have the opposite issue, it's too aggressive for the most part, like I said I am very laid back when I am not pushing a car so I have found most of the auto-drive type systems are a little heavy handed.

As far as generations go I always go by the underlaying platform and the W222 was a 12-20 and mine was 09-18 so there is decent overlap in generations there, the refresh on your car was much more significant tech wise but my car had a more advanced platform from the get go in terms of things I care more about like engine/trans/etc but that's a brand difference issue not that one is better than the other. I really like the W222 but it's a bit too much of a cruiser for my tastes, I like the D4 since it can cruise around but rewards being pushed very hard and I felt more engaged/happy/feeling of confidence when I test drove them vs W222s.

Lexus was not even in the running nor was BMW when I really started looking lol!

 

Lexus doesn’t have the lane centering function, and these systems aren’t designed to be used on roads with stop lights. They’re for the open highway and are not automated driving. They’re just driving aids.

 

Whats heavy handed about a system that maintains a set distance from cars in front of it and holds a center line in a lane?

You’re trying to use the system in a way it’s not designed to be used (on a non access controlled highway with stoplights)

I drove out to the eastern shore today with some of my team members for shopping and lunch, and using the system here’s an example. I used chapstick, and I confidently got my chapstick and took the top off and used it, put the top back on and put it back in the console without steering the car for about 25 seconds, both hands totally off the wheel. THATS what the system allows you to do. Then you’re driving the car, but it’s holding the line and you’re just pointing it in the right direction. Takes 60% of the effort out of driving on the highway.

 

My GS has lane centering. Works well though I don’t often use it. I still love radar cruise.

 

It doesn’t work anything like the more sophisticated systems, night and day. It’s really just lane keep assist, it will ping pong the car from
line to line but it won’t smoothly hold
it in the center well, especially on a curve.

 

It’s not as good as newer systems, but it doesn’t ping ping at all. My Highlander has LKA that ping pongs, but in the GS (LKA with Lane Centering) it works well and takes curves just fine.

 

Ive driven Lexuses with Lane Centering and Lane Tracing, it’s nowhere near as smooth and natural as the Distronic in my car or other systems. There is a WIDE variety in these systems depending on the manufacturer. I would rate Lexus’ near the bottom.

I think you see that in your own use. If it worked well, you would use it more.

 

No argument, again, that other systems are better. Just countering your assertion that Lexus doesn’t have lane centering. It does. I just turn it on, rest my hand on the lower part of the wheel, and let it do its thing.

 

I, personally, would not call it lane centering even though they do.

For example, the thing with the chapstick I described, I wouldn’t do that with the Lexus system.

 

😃 I think “Lane Centering” is the perfect name for a function that keeps the car, you know, centered in the lane, but I’ll still sleep tonight even if you and I disagree on this.

 

i do the same as you but don't consider the car's limitations as 'extremely annoying'. #firstworldproblems.

oh no, not the difficult chapstick test!

 

They brake and accelerate too aggressively, I described the issue/why I don't like it already. It's decent on the interstates I guess but not much difference for me since I have no issue driving 16 hours with only fuel stops