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Old 12-28-22 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
You jumped on board the EV bad train without thinking anything through.
I don't think EV's are bad. I'd buy one. However, it wouldn't be my first choice for heading to the Sierras in the middle of a storm. I've been using lithium-ion batteries for decades in all types of camera and video equipment. I can tell you that when the temps drop, so does the performance of these batteries. It's just my personal observation and bias. I'm not trying to convince anyone to not buy an EV.
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Old 12-28-22 | 09:57 PM
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^^^^ I watched most of the video. While I am not necessarily a Hate-EV person myself, this guy, IMO, is simply too much of an apologist for the clear shortcomings of the current state of EVs and charging-infrastructure. He also demonizes ICEs too much.
Old 01-31-23 | 08:59 PM
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AAA insurance just released a study that shows EV's lose over 40% of their range when temperatures drop to 20 degrees F. Part of the loss is due to use of the heater, the other is the effect of the cold on the lithium ion batteries.

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Old 02-01-23 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilson2000
AAA insurance just released a study that shows EV's loose over 40% of their range when temperatures drop to 20 degrees F. Part of the loss is due to use of the heater, the other is the effect of the cold on the lithium ion batteries.
That is a tough sell in the cold climates. it's -10 today where I am. A bZ4X will have about a 275km today. Does not work for me.
Old 02-01-23 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
That is a tough sell in the cold climates. it's -10 today where I am. A bZ4X will have about a 275km today. Does not work for me.
You're planning on driving more than 275 km today?
Old 02-01-23 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by link13
I work in the EV charging but not for EA. I'm with one of the big oil companies. We have seen reports that the new Tesla stations work in cold, but not in extreme heat, meaning 100 F plus. It's not all of them that don't work, but it is an issue.
That's just not true. Here in California we experience heatwaves in the summer where the temp exceeded this year 115 F, and everyone I knew that had Tesla's had no issues charging using Tesla super chargers. Now EA's do experience issues in extreme heat because according to an EA repair tech I talked to the chiller is not designed correctly and fails, which is the root problem EA chargers are facing, summer and winter
Old 02-01-23 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
You're planning on driving more than 275 km today?
Sure. I love to just get up and go to Niagara Falls. Hit the casino. Watch a music show at the Fallsview. Maybe the cross the border to go to the Olive Garden.
Old 02-01-23 | 10:31 AM
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Wait, all that is cool and all but you drive 275 km for.... Olive Garden?!?!
Old 02-01-23 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
Wait, all that is cool and all but you drive 275 km for.... Olive Garden?!?!
If I am in Niagara Falls yeah... No Olive Garden in Canada....so you have to cross the border from the falls
Old 02-01-23 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
If I am in Niagara Falls yeah... No Olive Garden in Canada....so you have to cross the border from the falls
I have one less than a mile from me. I would much rather drive to 100 miles to eat, than go to Olive Garden. Are the other Italian restaurants really that bad up there?
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Originally Posted by Mike728
I would much rather drive to 100 miles to eat, than go to Olive Garden.
Don't hate on Olive Garden now LOL
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