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Old 01-15-23, 06:54 PM
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All EVs will feel the same to drive and there will no longer be the distinguishing factor of actual self contained engines. EVs are just appliances you will have a subscription for and change out like phones
I did a test-drive of a new Chevy Bolt EUV a few days ago, and found the electric drivetrain extremely refined...a true pleasure to drive. You yourself may refer to it as "appliance-like"...but a lot of people like that kind of vanilla, including me. We like something smooth and quiet, and don't care if it doesn't have dragster-torque.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I did a test-drive of a new Chevy Bolt EUV a few days ago, and found the electric drivetrain extremely refined...a true pleasure to drive. You yourself may refer to it as "appliance-like"...but a lot of people like that kind of vanilla, including me. We like something smooth and quiet, and don't care if it doesn't have dragster-torque.
I got to drive PHEV Ford Fusion for a bit and it was awesome. The car felt light, quick and nimble. EV's have their place in today's mode of transportation.
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I just completely disagree. Even Rolls Royce is coming out with EV powertrains.
I'd be willing to bet RR will be the first "traditional" manufacturer to be 100% EV. The silent, effortless thrust of electric motors could not possibly be more on-brand.
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Old 01-16-23, 06:32 AM
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I got to drive PHEV Ford Fusion for a bit and it was awesome. The car felt light, quick and nimble. EV's have their place in today's mode of transportation.
A PHEV isn't an EV, its a plug in hybrid. Drives like any other hybrid.
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I'd be willing to bet RR will be the first "traditional" manufacturer to be 100% EV. The silent, effortless thrust of electric motors could not possibly be more on-brand.
Totally agree, makes a ton of sense for a Rolls Royce.
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Originally Posted by geko29
I'd be willing to bet RR will be the first "traditional" manufacturer to be 100% EV. The silent, effortless thrust of electric motors could not possibly be more on-brand.
yeah, EVs can be made to be extremely sophisticated, and match or easily exceed what RR buyers want with effortless drive.
No transmissions, no noise, just quiet and effortless continuous power.

It is by far the most luxurious powertrain.
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Originally Posted by geko29
I'd be willing to bet RR will be the first "traditional" manufacturer to be 100% EV. The silent, effortless thrust of electric motors could not possibly be more on-brand.
The thing is, I doubt many owners are dissatisfied with the current V12s. Add an EV option, sure absolutely. But don't rip away the V12.
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The thing is, I doubt many owners are dissatisfied with the current V12s. Add an EV option, sure absolutely. But don't rip away the V12.
I don't think they really care about their V12s either.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I don't think they really care about their V12s either.
They've already discontinued the Wraith and the Dawn, which are being replaced later this year by the Spectre EV. The Phantom/Cullinan platform was explicitly designed with EV usage in mind, and RR has said that they will discontinue all ICE production by 2030 at the latest.

Anyway....back to maintenance costs.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
A PHEV isn't an EV, its a plug in hybrid. Drives like any other hybrid.
It's an EV because you can drive fully electric for 15 miles fully charged. Hybrids don't have this range. The most they can do is to go fully electric under a certain speed limit.
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Originally Posted by xGS350x
It's an EV because you can drive fully electric for 15 miles fully charged. Hybrids don't have this range. The most they can do is to go fully electric under a certain speed limit.
Its not at all the same thing, driving a full EV is a totally different experience.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Its not at all the same thing, driving a full EV is a totally different experience.
Please elaborate?
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The acronym PHEV stands for Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle. Pretty silly to argue that something is not a hybrid when that's its literal name.
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Please elaborate?
A PHEV in full EV mode is low powered and slow, and when not driving in EV mode it’s just like any other hybrid. What else is there to elaborate?
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
A PHEV in full EV mode is low powered and slow, and when not driving in EV mode it’s just like any other hybrid. What else is there to elaborate?
I think Toyota is the worst. As you deplete the EV only range on thrRAV…it defaults to standard hybrid system I believe. loses 75HP
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