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Old 01-26-23 | 07:46 PM
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There could be countless case studies to write on the strategy of Hyundai. From its U.S. debut in the late 80’s with the Excel, that I’m sure Hyundai execs would rather you forget, Hyundai made its first name for itself as cheap. Cheap in price and cheap in quality. Ah the difficulties of overcoming first impressions and how they persist, despite lack of first hand experience for many consumers. The 2011 Sonata made people take notice of the brand again. This time for style and the era of overdelivering on features and content relative to its mainstream competitors. But it was still hard for the brand to charge prices at or near the likes of a Honda or Toyota, even with the stronger list of features. Yes, Genesis, first the model and now the brand, has pushed itself upward, but the Palisade is truly the H-brand’s game changer.

2023 facelift squares things off and cuts a more handsome look.

Sure the formula continues, style and design, along with a hefty list of features, but the price point of the Palisade doesn’t shy away from parity or exceeding its ultra competitive segment brethren. When it launched for the 2020 model year, the Palisade was a grand slam, almost immediately waitlists (and dealer markups) grew, and this was before the weird supply chain issues started to impact every vehicle and availability. Demand was strongest for the then top of the line Limited trim, whose price was around $47,000. Sales surged past 80,000 units in its first full year on sale and have continued to stay strong. It’s still a far cry from the 200,000+ Highlanders and Explorers that Toyota and Ford chunk out, but make no mistake that the Palisade, and corporate cousin Kia Telluride have firmly pushed the idea of a desirable $50,000 Korean vehicle into the minds of car shoppers across America.

Not as many changes rear ward, but it didn’t need much.

The Palisade hits a sweet spot for style, interior size and space, drivability, comfort, luxury and substantial value. That’s just part of why it’s been so hard to find one on dealer lots for nearly three years now. Let the next Hyundai case study take note here.

Nothing out of place, really hope Hyundai retains this balance of actual controls going forward.

With sky high demand, you would think that Hyundai would be content to let its new found cash cow continue to rake it in, but then you wouldn’t know what happens in the twin towers just south of the ritzy Gangnam district of Seoul. The busy bees in those buildings aren’t known to sit around and let products get stale. For 2023 the Palisade receives a bit of a nip/tuck front and back and updates inside too. The front end gets a more squared off “cascading” grille that looks much cleaner and helps adapt a new rugged XRT trim as well. Love the updated design inside the Calligraphy with its chevron stitched leather, much more contemporary than the rounded quilting from before.

New massaging driver seat lifts a page from the Genesis playbook, same with the chevron materials.

Inside there’s a clean and #openconcept design up front. Maybe not as open as the new IONIQ 5, but the dashboard and center console house easy and well-grouped controls. The space in the console itself can be a wide open box, or you can pop out individual cupholders as needed. There’s no shortage of luxury here in the Calligraphy trim, with a new massaging driver’s seat and new heated third row seats to go with the heated and cooled first and second row seats, power folding third row, digital rear view mirror and so on. There are even dual exterior auto-dimming mirrors, when many brands have been omitting the passenger side dimming for years now. This is stuff that’s hard to find in many luxury branded 3-row utilities, let alone one that rings up for under $55,000 as equipped. Really appreciate the power sunshade on the rear sunroof, this is in contrast to the Kia Carnival which has a similar arrangement, but a manual shade on the rear unit. With the power control, I could re-close the shade over the kids without having to pull over.

Thank goodness for real controls and the decided lack of piano black plastics.

While I stand by my belief that minivans are truly the best 3-row family haulers on the market, the customers have spoken and 3-row SUVs are the decided family hauler of choice right now. (But seriously, if you need 3-rows of human sized passengers AND cargo behind that, get a minivan.) That said, the Palisade does an amazing stand-in role for big family hauling duties while still fitting garages and standard parking spaces. Within a tidy 196.7″, the Hyundai magicians have carved out real passenger space in all 3-rows while preserving 18 cubic feet for cargo behind the 3rd row. Space in the 2nd row is flexible with loads of fore-aft travel for the seat to help balance legroom for the way-back folks. Helping that is a nice high seating position that allows good comfort for taller passengers, even if the 2nd row seat is pulled to its forward most position. At 6′ tall, I could easily sit comfortably behind myself in all 3 rows. and there’s plenty of space for our rear facing car seat in the 2nd row, something I can’t say about our long-term X5 – benefits of a front-wheel drive platform and transversely mounted engine.

2nd row heated/ventilated seats are wasted on our daughters in their car seats, but at least there’s room!

The updated infotainment screen is crisp with 720p resolution on its large 12.3″ screen. Yes, standard Hyundai complaint of lack of wireless CarPlay still applies here unfortunately. Also noticed that if you go full widescreen, the Hyundai system pop ups, that typically show on the right 1/3rd of the screen, don’t come up. Automakers are still trying to integrate and bounce back and forth between their native and the phone tech environments. Curious to see if Hyundai also goes to a full Android Automotive Operating System route that so many others are taking.

You can have CarPlay take the entire widescreen experience in the Palisade.

Where things are pretty dialed in is with the comfortable and smooth, controlled ride. No it’s not set up for the most “dynamic” twists and turns, but it knows its mission for 99% of life is comfort around town and on the highway, and to that intended function the Palisade delivers. Steering likewise is a light touch, but not too slow in response to leave it sloppy. Laminated glass helps keep things ultra-quiet inside as well. I rate the Palisade well above our prior long-term VW Atlas for ride and drive.

I would guess large displacement, naturally aspirated (non turbo) engines are not long for this world.

Perhaps the similarity to the Atlas would be in power and fuel economy. With a fairly dated, large displacement V6 engine, power is simply adequate, while fuel economy was a bit middling. Rated at 19 City, 25 Highway and 21 miles per gallon combined, we saw just 17.1 MPG in our week of testing. Hyundai offers up hybrids and plug in hybrids and even electrics in all their other SUVs, but the Palisade hasn’t seen any of those on offer. Explorer, Durango and Grand Cherokee L also offer up more potent powertrains. Although I do expect Hyundai to be one of the first mainstream car companies to come to market with a full EV 3-row SUV. Hopefully that will address some of the limited shortcomings we noted in fuel economy and power.

3rd row can power recline! Your move Escalade.

Other minor nitpicks include no rear door lock/unlock access from the exterior door handles, rear seats don’t pivot and slide forward like some competitors to allow for car seats to remain installed (although they do a convenient one-touch slide) and no interior rear passenger cam. Would also really like to see power folding mirrors on the top-spec Palisade, especially when they’re offered on cousin Telluride. But none of these would stop me from seriously considering the Palisade for family hauler needs.

Respectable space behind the 3rd row, but still not a minivan.

The shadow that the Palisade casts over the mainstream and even luxury SUV set can’t be ignored. Toyota finally looks to be addressing the Korean elephant in the segment with their upcoming “Grand Highlander” and we’ll have to see how the Lexus version turns out as well, but for now, the well-rounded Palisade comes out on top of a very broad and fierce competitive set. Hopefully supply improves and Hyundai dealers stop tacking on ridiculous market adjustments to allow more people to fully realize the immense value and amazing products achievement that is being presented here.

Nice flat cargo floor, with ability to fold the 3rd and 2nd rows from the rear cargo area.

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Good review. I've sampled a new Palisade myself. I agree with most of what you say, except to note that several of the very latest-generation of Hyundai/Kia products don't seem to have quite as solid as sheet-metal, Thunk-door-closings, or interior hardware/materials as the ones from the mid-2000s up till about 2020-2021 did. Perhaps it is an attempt to get the curb weights down, or perhaps just cost-cutting.
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Great review! I agree with all of it…
Old 01-26-23 | 09:10 PM
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Great review.
The lack of power folding mirrors is a curious one since Telluride had it from the get go. Then again, Palisade has power rear seats while Telluride doesn't.
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Honestly? I prefer manual folding rear seats.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Honestly? I prefer manual folding rear seats.
I agree. I don't care either way. It's just weird Hyundai and Kia picked certain features between the two.
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We test drove a Palisade in May of last year and really liked it. The interior is gorgeous (those pics don't do it justice). It was in our top 3 list and my wife was leaning heavily towards it. The killer, at the time, was a $10k markup. Ended up in a 2023 MDX that had $400 ADM (tint), but no other markups.
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Originally Posted by ABC
We test drove a Palisade in May of last year and really liked it. The interior is gorgeous (those pics don't do it justice). It was in our top 3 list and my wife was leaning heavily towards it. The killer, at the time, was a $10k markup. Ended up in a 2023 MDX that had $400 ADM (tint), but no other markups.
OOPS! lol

Yeah, dealers start adding $10k, might as well bump it up to an MDX.

That was smart.
I like the Pallisade but adding high ADM's to the price can make other cars attractive too.
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Great review. Interesting how the Palisade interior in your pics uses a lot of the same touches of the LS500 - the speaker covers being the shiny metal look, and the "waves" and flowing lines of the leather on the door panels.

I have not driven a Palisade, but I have driven a 2021 G90 (5.0 engine) and a GV80 (3.5 engine). My ONLY complaint that I've had after driving these high end vehicles is the engine does not feel as refined as the rest of the car. It's a combination of how much of the engine you can hear and how it just feels "off" to me as a long time LS driver where the power does not feel as effortless, especially in the first few gears when driving around town. I'm curious if you felt the same - that Palisade interior is top notch. I imagine when you close the doors you feel a sense of isolation. But how does that translate to the actual driving experience?
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Originally Posted by SC300Es
I agree. I don't care either way. It's just weird Hyundai and Kia picked certain features between the two.
Originally Posted by ABC
We test drove a Palisade in May of last year and really liked it. The interior is gorgeous (those pics don't do it justice). It was in our top 3 list and my wife was leaning heavily towards it. The killer, at the time, was a $10k markup. Ended up in a 2023 MDX that had $400 ADM (tint), but no other markups.
Yeah the markups make them less attractive I agree...

Originally Posted by jrmckinley
I have not driven a Palisade, but I have driven a 2021 G90 (5.0 engine) and a GV80 (3.5 engine). My ONLY complaint that I've had after driving these high end vehicles is the engine does not feel as refined as the rest of the car. It's a combination of how much of the engine you can hear and how it just feels "off" to me as a long time LS driver where the power does not feel as effortless, especially in the first few gears when driving around town. I'm curious if you felt the same - that Palisade interior is top notch. I imagine when you close the doors you feel a sense of isolation. But how does that translate to the actual driving experience?
Thats true of those powerplants, but the V6 in the Palisade and Telluride is pretty similar to other V6s available in that segment
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Thats true of those powerplants, but the V6 in the Palisade and Telluride is pretty similar to other V6s available in that segment
Agree with this, the V6 is the only element of the Palisade/Telluride that feels rather pedestrian. Can't compare it to a luxury brand that utilizes a turbo 6 etc, even though the interior can make you think that it should be shopped against those. So not quite the effortless swell of something like A Q7 or an X7, but it's also not at that price point. Would argue that it's better than the MDX at a much better value (as long as no ADM), plus you wouldn't have to deal with that True Touch Pad in the MDX.

Would a turbo 4 like most of the segment is moving to get it more grunt down low? Perhaps. but my guess would be Hyundai skips over that and goes straight to full EV.
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A friend of mine just picked up a 2023 Palisade. It met the goals they were looking for. I have not had a chance to see or drive it yet. I personally would rather have a V6 than a turbo 4 only for the simplicity. Turbo 4's can easily have more hp and torque but I'm not sure on long term reliability on high boosted models from Hyundai or some other brands. I at least trust Toyota reliability more and would feel safe with a Lexus / Toyota with a turbo 4.
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Originally Posted by pbm317
but my guess would be Hyundai skips over that and goes straight to full EV.
Judging by the recent price leaks of the "EV Telluride" I'm not sure current Palisade/Telluride buyers would hop onto the EV versions so readily. Starts at the price of a loaded Telluride and peaks at almost the same top end as a loaded Genesis GV80, then again Hyundai/Kia have been adamantly trying to claw their way away from their economy brand roots in the past decade.
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Originally Posted by pbm317
Agree with this, the V6 is the only element of the Palisade/Telluride that feels rather pedestrian. Can't compare it to a luxury brand that utilizes a turbo 6 etc, even though the interior can make you think that it should be shopped against those. So not quite the effortless swell of something like A Q7 or an X7, but it's also not at that price point. Would argue that it's better than the MDX at a much better value (as long as no ADM), plus you wouldn't have to deal with that True Touch Pad in the MDX.

Would a turbo 4 like most of the segment is moving to get it more grunt down low? Perhaps. but my guess would be Hyundai skips over that and goes straight to full EV.
I sat in both the Palisade (Telluride was on a turntable) and the MDX at the car show today, and honestly the Palisade is considerably nicer...
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Nice review. Like everything except the front grill. I would pick a telluride over this.



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