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Old 02-04-23, 09:09 PM
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One of the basic foundations of a premium product is attention to detail. Do the engines of the 2023 Lexus RX and NX look like a premium product to you? To me, an engineer with over 30 years of experience, they look like a mess, with zero planning, poor system design, and terrible execution. For comparison, see the engines of their closest German competitors: AUDI Q5, BMW X3 and Mercedes GLC.






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Old 02-04-23, 09:18 PM
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Yeah. That the Lexus lacks covers






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I’m an engineer too. I’d never judge the quality or technology of an engine by its looks.
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Even KIA, Hyundai or VW, which do not pretend to be a premium product, do a much better job. Telluride, Palisade, Tiguan - mass produced, affordable SUVs which look much more "premium" than Lexus products costing 30-50% more.




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You have to go GX



Looks at the battery cover
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So…bigger plastic covers over the engine mean it’s more premium?
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Yeah. The covers finish it off nicely. Potentially quieter as well.
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Pull the covers off lol!
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I doubt the typical person who purchases those vehicles will ever, even one time, open the hood, and even if they did, I highly doubt they would realize or care that some components were left uncovered.

Of all the things to complain about, this just isn’t one of them.

ps, you should see what that Audi looks like under that engine cover
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Mine doesn't have covers.

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Originally Posted by JDR76
I’m an engineer too. I’d never judge the quality or technology of an engine by its looks.
Engine layout speaks volumes about attention to detail. Do these cable terminations look good to you? These are from my wife's 2023 NX 350h. Thin cables left rubbing against sharp edge of a plastic conduit. Sure, some terminations are well done, wrapped with tape to prevent rubbing and keep moisture out. But about 20% of them are of unacceptable quality, not even in the cheapest of cars, much less in a car from a brand that claims high quality.




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Originally Posted by Striker223

Mine doesn't have covers.
... and looks super neat.
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Originally Posted by katekebo
Engine layout speaks volumes about attention to detail. Do these cable terminations look good to you? These are from my wife's 2023 NX 350h. Thin cables left rubbing against sharp edge of a plastic conduit. Sure, some terminations are well done, wrapped with tape to prevent rubbing and keep moisture out. But about 20% of them are of unacceptable quality, not even in the cheapest of cars, much less in a car from a brand that claims high quality.


They no doubt did qualification testing, and clearly they passed. So no, they would not bother me.
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I just want my battery to be under the front hood. A small thing to ask.
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The 2.5L engines from Toyota are high volume products. Don’t expect attention to detail with wiring harness.

Lexus premium products are the 3.5L and their V8s. All the engine wiring is covered up nicely.

Lexus is no longer spending money on detail that no one really appreciates.

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