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Old 02-08-23, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
It’s all in the way it’s packaged. No L or LE or XSE…it’s gonna start at almost $51K There is 100% a market for both. Regular HL is a world vehicle…this is a USA only design.

Toyota will dominate. They have a solution at every price point. And this will also take sales from the 3 row 4Runner limited. Land Cruiser Prado is coming to the USA as well
If it's custom for us then there is no need for the normal highlander, looking at the overall length I would never pick the normal one. 5 inches doesn't change the car much at all in this class of vehicle, there is less difference there than I have between some of my cars
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Old 02-09-23, 03:39 AM
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The 2.4l turbo "hybrid" is the same as the rx500h - 6AT + rear e-axle + 2.4l turbo. Not impressive in the city, about what you'd expect on the highway. Not sure why they dropped the 2GR-FXE option everywhere - the "estimates" match it with the 2.4l in highway, don't see how it'll be better in the real world. The CVT hybrid in this will be the 2.5l NA - same as the Sienna.
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Once this comes out it would be a good time for Toyota to allow for a 3rd row delete on the standard Highlander. This would fill the gap for those who only need 2 rows but want/need something bigger than a RAV-4, but not wanting a BOF vehicle like a 4Runner.
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Old 02-09-23, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
If it's custom for us then there is no need for the normal highlander, looking at the overall length I would never pick the normal one. 5 inches doesn't change the car much at all in this class of vehicle, there is less difference there than I have between some of my cars
Don’t buy the standard HL. Buy the larger model. Toyota now has a flank on both sides of the Palisade. Toyota also beats it with superior fuel efficiency as well.
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Looks good for what it is. The tail resembles rc?
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Old 02-09-23, 04:42 AM
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OK Toyota, you have my attention with this one. This appears to check a lot of boxes for us.

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Old 02-09-23, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Unless you need to tow, I have no idea why you would buy a Sequoia over this.
I would imagine the Sequoia is significantly wider than this, so more shoulder room between passengers. Plus the higher driving position offers a more commanding feel. Plus you'll have some who just want the look and feel of an SUV instead of a crossover. All of these things run through my head as I research something like the Palisade (and now this Grand Highlander enters the mix), but keep entertaining something like a Tahoe/Yukon.

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Land Cruiser Prado is coming to the USA as well
. Really? Isn't this the identical vehicle to the GX? And the GX and 4Runner are eerily similar in many ways. Why would they do this? So it would basically be a 4Runner with a rear door that swings open?
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Old 02-09-23, 07:27 AM
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My god that Rav4 is huge.... nice
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I see nothing particularly special here but there is no doubt this is exactly what Toyota needed to further dominate the market.
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Old 02-09-23, 08:18 AM
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4cyl in a 3row SUV is a joke and it has a lovely CVT to add to the laughter.
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Originally Posted by Motorola
It's slightly better than I expected considering the much smaller RX5005 does it in 5.9 seconds. But compared to the turbo 6 cylinders in other competitors, yeah it's not remotely competitive with anyone except the MDX Type S.
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I mean.....it's a 4cyl turbo hybrid CVT. What do you expect? It's not going to perform like a 8 speed V8 with that output number.
It's okay and inline with how Toyota works, enough power for the job and very very rarely anything more.
my hyundai santa fe has 2.5T no hybrid battery with 277HP and it does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds according to motortrend. it's certainly a lively vehice esp. in sport mode.
you'd think a slightly bigger vehicle with almost 100 hp more (365HP) would be a lot quicker.

and i'll take actual gears over another wheezy cvt.
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The only engine with the CVT is the 2.5L hybrid - the other two engine options have 8/6 speed transmissions.

• 265-hp*, 2.4-liter turbocharged four-cylinder; eight-speed automatic transmission; front- or all-wheel drive.
• 245-hp*, 2.5-liter hybrid four-cylinder; continuously variable transmission; front- or all-wheel drive.
• 362-hp, 2.4-liter turbocharged four-cylinder hybrid; six-speed automatic transmission; all-wheel drive.
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Old 02-09-23, 09:16 AM
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I must be hopelessly out of touch I find the styling of this behemoth offensive. It is form over function to the extreme the giant grille and jacked up hood line are there because.....I don't know. What is this look supposed to convey?
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Old 02-09-23, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
my hyundai santa fe has 2.5T no hybrid battery with 277HP and it does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds according to motortrend. it's certainly a lively vehice esp. in sport mode.
you'd think a slightly bigger vehicle with almost 100 hp more (365HP) would be a lot quicker.

and i'll take actual gears over another wheezy cvt.
Slightly bigger? It's already longer and wider than the Palisade, let alone the Santa Fe. These 0-60 numbers are completely fine for a car of this mass. It likely has over 700-900lbs on your Santa Fe too.
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
4cyl in a 3row SUV is a joke and it has a lovely CVT to add to the laughter.
@RNM GS3 have you driven one? I'm a RX 500H owner and its awesome! I'm pretty sure it wont disappoint in the Grand Highlander...
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