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Old 02-20-23, 02:51 PM
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Apparently my thread was offensive.
How was it offensive? It seems perfectly fine to me
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Your defensiveness offends me lol
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Well nobody can be offended now, we can't have that!
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WHAT I LIKE about new cars is the connectivity and most of the tech. However cars have to be really nice to get my attention when it used to not be really that way.

That S580 you can use your voice, fingerprint, face, or PIN to start the car. That is redundant but really really cool.
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Well nobody can be offended now, we can't have that!
Can't have that! lol
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Safety is blown out of proportion. Yeah I probably wouldn't want to drive a 50's Impala or something. Although, if we're talking a 15-20 year old car what is the big deal and why are those often made to be in the same death trap category as a 50's car?

Last I checked, they still had seat belts, crumple zones, air bags all over the place, and lots of other features. This was also the time when belt lines were rising. So why are these 15-20 year old cars regarded as death traps? Because it doesn't have automatic braking?
i understand your point. the thread started pretty vague so yes a 15-20 year old car isn't a death trap but is surely not as safe as today's cars.

case in point, cars of the 2000s didn't have traction control and TPMS as standard which they are today. things just keep getting better in terms of safety was my overall point.
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case in point, cars of the 2000s didn't have traction control and TPMS as standard which they are today. things just keep getting better in terms of safety was my overall point.
Depending on price, brand, and model, vehicles started getting traction control in the 1990s.....and VSC was a spinoff of the TC technology.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
Safety is blown out of proportion. Yeah I probably wouldn't want to drive a 50's Impala or something. Although, if we're talking a 15-20 year old car what is the big deal and why are those often made to be in the same death trap category as a 50's car?

Last I checked, they still had seat belts, crumple zones, air bags all over the place, and lots of other features. This was also the time when belt lines were rising. So why are these 15-20 year old cars regarded as death traps? Because it doesn't have automatic braking?
They are too light and weak. Stuff like a W140 or XF20/30 are safe but they are seriously ahead of their times. Normal cars from even 2010 are not the safest stuff....
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Originally Posted by Striker223
They are too light and weak. Stuff like a W140 or XF20/30 are safe but they are seriously ahead of their times. Normal cars from even 2010 are not the safest stuff....
A W140 or XF20/30 are nowhere near as safe as a modern midmarket car, let alone a new S Class or LS.

If you asked me if I would rather be in a crash in a W140 or a 2023 Accord, I would choose the Accord.
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Apparently my thread was offensive.
lol, who was offended?
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Originally Posted by timmy0tool
i understand your point. the thread started pretty vague so yes a 15-20 year old car isn't a death trap but is surely not as safe as today's cars.

case in point, cars of the 2000s didn't have traction control and TPMS as standard which they are today. things just keep getting better in terms of safety was my overall point.
TPMS is a joke. It's not hard to take 30 seconds and check your tire pressure once or twice a week. The annoying light sets it off for me as to why this "feature" is a gimmick, one of the worst in history.
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
TPMS is a joke. It's not hard to take 30 seconds and check your tire pressure once or twice a week. The annoying light sets it off for me as to why this "feature" is a gimmick, one of the worst in history.

I strongly disagree on this one. TPMS is one of the most useful features on today's vehicles, although I'll admit that the reliability and accuracy can deteriorate over time. nevertheless, with this feature, you can (as I do) keep it in a default-display on your dash-screen and constantly watch the PSI in your tires as you drive, so that a low or flat tire doesn't catch you by surprise on the road. If one more tires get a slow leak, you will be able to detect it right away and head for the nearest tire shop....or stop and add air from a portable compressor like the one I carry in my vehicle.

Also, don't forget that tire pressure will vary with heat and cold (roughly 1 PSI for every 10 degrees F)...tires sitting in the sun will heat up more than in the shade, and heat up a couple of PSI with normal warm-up while driving. That means if the temperature drops sharply at night, your tires could be under-inflated in the early morning even if they were fine during the afternoon.

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Originally Posted by xjokerz
TPMS is a joke. It's not hard to take 30 seconds and check your tire pressure once or twice a week. The annoying light sets it off for me as to why this "feature" is a gimmick, one of the worst in history.

Haha.

. You are so wrong
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
TPMS is a joke. It's not hard to take 30 seconds and check your tire pressure once or twice a week. The annoying light sets it off for me as to why this "feature" is a gimmick, one of the worst in history.
Literally nobody checks their tire pressure. Thats the point, everybody is driving around on low tire pressure and it reduces safety and increases pollution and fuel use.

You and I check our tire pressures, but my wife never would. My mom never would. Most of the people I know never would. They wouldn't know how, don't own a gauge, and just would never care. The vast majority of people drive their cars and never check anything. They get them washed sometimes and get the oil changed, and in between oil changes no care or thought is given to their condition.

Even I wouldn't check my tire pressures once a week. Once a month maybe unless one looked low.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Literally nobody checks their tire pressure. Thats the point, everybody is driving around on low tire pressure and it reduces safety and increases pollution and fuel use.

You and I check our tire pressures, but my wife never would. My mom never would. Most of the people I know never would. They wouldn't know how, don't own a gauge, and just would never care. The vast majority of people drive their cars and never check anything. They get them washed sometimes and get the oil changed, and in between oil changes no care or thought is given to their condition.

Even I wouldn't check my tire pressures once a week. Once a month maybe unless one looked low.
tire pressure data on the dash…what could be so bad
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