New 2024 Mercedes E Class interior reveal
02-24-23, 06:07 AM
#61
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And that's exactly why I hate it. There is soooooooooo much bezel! The non-hyperscreen version you posted still has a nice big display, but it's basically edge-to-edge and looks WAY better. No acres of shiny wasted space.
02-24-23, 06:10 AM
#62
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02-24-23, 10:51 AM
#63
Massive - no, phone screens are not used anywhere near often enough to matter, given how often they're changed. A car display having to fight the summer sun, though? Doesn't matter how good your AR coating on the glass is, you still need light output and a lot of it. Pretty sure that you don't want a screen saver in your vehicle for when you're not looking at the dash.
02-24-23, 11:02 AM
#64
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Because we do. Phones definitely do burn-in. Tablets do burn-in - you just don't see a whole lot of tablets with OLEDs since Apple is still using IPS w/ FALD. Desktop displays most definitely do burn-in.
Massive - no, phone screens are not used anywhere near often enough to matter, given how often they're changed. A car display having to fight the summer sun, though? Doesn't matter how good your AR coating on the glass is, you still need light output and a lot of it. Pretty sure that you don't want a screen saver in your vehicle for when you're not looking at the dash.
Massive - no, phone screens are not used anywhere near often enough to matter, given how often they're changed. A car display having to fight the summer sun, though? Doesn't matter how good your AR coating on the glass is, you still need light output and a lot of it. Pretty sure that you don't want a screen saver in your vehicle for when you're not looking at the dash.
And again we have cars that have OLED displays, and I have never heard of issues.
02-24-23, 11:19 AM
#65
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Ya'll wanna hear some crazy stuff?
Ok, this is for the techy nerds out there... lol
I was working on a touchscreen for a machine and the display went bad.
So I researched the replacement glass screen and they only made it for 3 years and was obsolete.
Oh boy, so then I traced out the circuit and the driving chips that move the data from the ram thru the displays ribbon cable was obsolete too, a special purpose chip.
Ok so now double screwed, so I pulled the datasheet on the display glass and started digging into it to see if I could reverse engineer a workaround and discovered something I never saw coming.
The display required serial configuration by programming the "registers"(in the glass) before sending image data. Huh? What the hell?
So again I traced out the circuit and hooked up a data analyzer and sure enough the microcontroller was sending serial data straight theu a buffer chip to the display screen before dumping the images into ram to get the pictre going.
Ok, all that to say, screen technologuy is advancing so fast and this 15 year old screen had configurable silicone logic embedded in the glass requiring serial configuration to set the configuration registers in the glass.
This is one step from having the complete microcontroller In The Glass!
So in disbelief, I put it under my soldering microscope and yes I could see the highway of logic circuits at the edge of the glass.
This was a 10-15 year old screen!
Now that's the kinda stuff that impresses me and nerded out enuff for ya'll hope. lol
PS- I guess that's why I'm more impressed with the screen itself than what is on the screen. I like the MB posted above that just has the one screen, less distraction IMO but just a personal preference.
Ok, this is for the techy nerds out there... lol
I was working on a touchscreen for a machine and the display went bad.
So I researched the replacement glass screen and they only made it for 3 years and was obsolete.
Oh boy, so then I traced out the circuit and the driving chips that move the data from the ram thru the displays ribbon cable was obsolete too, a special purpose chip.
Ok so now double screwed, so I pulled the datasheet on the display glass and started digging into it to see if I could reverse engineer a workaround and discovered something I never saw coming.
The display required serial configuration by programming the "registers"(in the glass) before sending image data. Huh? What the hell?
So again I traced out the circuit and hooked up a data analyzer and sure enough the microcontroller was sending serial data straight theu a buffer chip to the display screen before dumping the images into ram to get the pictre going.
Ok, all that to say, screen technologuy is advancing so fast and this 15 year old screen had configurable silicone logic embedded in the glass requiring serial configuration to set the configuration registers in the glass.
This is one step from having the complete microcontroller In The Glass!
So in disbelief, I put it under my soldering microscope and yes I could see the highway of logic circuits at the edge of the glass.
This was a 10-15 year old screen!
Now that's the kinda stuff that impresses me and nerded out enuff for ya'll hope. lol
PS- I guess that's why I'm more impressed with the screen itself than what is on the screen. I like the MB posted above that just has the one screen, less distraction IMO but just a personal preference.
Last edited by Margate330; 02-24-23 at 11:30 AM.
02-24-23, 11:38 AM
#66
Lexus Champion
this would be all over on-line forums if it was an iPhone issue or a car issue
02-24-23, 01:27 PM
#67
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02-24-23, 02:56 PM
#69
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I have never heard of such a thing, I am an extremely heavy iPhone user too, I always have my brightness turned all the way up and have never had any issues or heard of anybody else having issues. I think you just follow the tech world closer than I do. I'm sure there ARE issues, but they are not common and don't come up amongst people who aren't tech people. The average iPhone user spends 40 hours a week on their phones, if we don't have common burn in with 40 hour a week usage, then its not a common issue. I bet the average vehicle display doesn't operate for 40 hours a week.
02-24-23, 03:31 PM
#70
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Because we do. Phones definitely do burn-in. Tablets do burn-in - you just don't see a whole lot of tablets with OLEDs since Apple is still using IPS w/ FALD. Desktop displays most definitely do burn-in.
Massive - no, phone screens are not used anywhere near often enough to matter, given how often they're changed. A car display having to fight the summer sun, though? Doesn't matter how good your AR coating on the glass is, you still need light output and a lot of it. Pretty sure that you don't want a screen saver in your vehicle for when you're not looking at the dash.
Massive - no, phone screens are not used anywhere near often enough to matter, given how often they're changed. A car display having to fight the summer sun, though? Doesn't matter how good your AR coating on the glass is, you still need light output and a lot of it. Pretty sure that you don't want a screen saver in your vehicle for when you're not looking at the dash.
02-24-23, 04:06 PM
#71
Yes, so much bezel, might as well be standing in front of a wall.
02-24-23, 04:08 PM
#72
Functionally, this is just three screens across the dash, with the hyperscreen providing nothing more than an extra screen for the passenger. Feels like such a weird waste of money designing all of that for something so minor.
Personally I'm more interested in what's under the hood, especially the fate of the six cylinder following the C-Class.
02-24-23, 07:12 PM
#74
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I have never heard of such a thing, I am an extremely heavy iPhone user too, I always have my brightness turned all the way up and have never had any issues or heard of anybody else having issues. I think you just follow the tech world closer than I do. I'm sure there ARE issues, but they are not common and don't come up amongst people who aren't tech people. The average iPhone user spends 40 hours a week on their phones, if we don't have common burn in with 40 hour a week usage, then its not a common issue. I bet the average vehicle display doesn't operate for 40 hours a week.
i have a samsung watch and i don't have the display on (unless i touch it or press a button). besides screen preservation it saves hugely on battery life too.
